Quite a few South American agencies do. I don't know about any here in the States.

 

Brazil, for one.
I wonder why?

 

Completely guessing here. My guess would be that there is not a US LE agency that issues taurus. There may be some that allow Taurus guns to be carried if there is no issue pistol or if that particular agency allows officers to carry personally owned firearms.

Again just a guess, I've been wrong a time or three before.

 

This would be correct....to my knowledge, not one US LE agency ISSUES Taurus pistols as a primary duty sidearm.

Some smaller, more progressive agencies which require their Officers to purchase their own duty pistol may have Taurus on an approved list.......even more progressive agencies will let an Officer qualify with anything he/she chooses as long as it meets the minimum caliber specification.

 

Some of the LEOs I've talked to carry a Taurus off-duty.
Not sure, but I think some departments make them leave their duty weapon locked up at the office.

We have City Police, County Police, County Sheriff and State Highway Patrol. Maybe others for all I know.

 

I don't know of any LE agencies who issue Taurus firearms, but they should! We shouldn't be the only ones to reap the benefits. Perhaps Taurus should do something like this:

FNH USA donates guns to police department in need

In the course of conducting a product demonstration, Bryan Piester, a regional sales manager for FNH USA, listened to some of the recent difficulties experienced by the New Roads (Louisiana) Police Department. After the department building was destroyed by fire in 2007 - along with several duty handguns - budgetary constraints prohibited replacement of the lost guns. Additionally, the duty weapons currently in use by the New Roads PD are over 10 years old: parts from damaged guns were in use to keep the weapons safe and working. Left to right: Police Chief Kevin McDonald, FNH USA's Bryan Piester, Lt. Shael Stringer of the NRPD and New Roads Mayor Tommy Nelson. Upon learning of the situation, Ken Pfau, vice president of law enforcement and commercial sales at FNH USA, donated 27 FNP pistols to the New Roads PD, so that every sworn officer could have a brand new duty pistol at his or her disposal. "There are a lot of law enforcement agencies out there struggling with reduced funding right now. This was an instance where we could really make an impact and help this department, and we were glad to do it," said Pfau. Of the donation, Chief of Police Kevin A. McDonald had this to say, "We were in the process of doing our 10 year phase-out-which is a longer time than most departments keep their firearms, and here comes FN - a blessing in disguise. This was truly a very great asset to the department. As with most small agencies, we operate on a modest budget, and this generous donation means a great deal to us."

 

I pesonally do not know of any U.S. departments or military units using them. If there any are, I'd suspect them to be small city PD's or Rural County S.O.'s that tend to be really tight for funds or require their employees to buy their own.

You can go to Tauru's South American websites and see a number of those agencies/military's that carry them.

Don't know how much of a "state secret" it would be for Taurus, but it would be nice if they would publish the information you're seeking.

I'm sure there a quite a few members of this forum, including your's truly, that would like to know.

 

They don't know what there missing.

 

Don't think any actual agencies local, state or federal thay actually issue Taurus. I do know the local PD and Sheriff here will allow an officer or deputy to carry jusy about any firearm that meets the caliber and capacity of the issue weapons. They do of course have to qualify with that weapon. I am close friends with a deputy that carries a 24/7 in .40. I also know a local Constibal(spelling) who carries his PT1911. I have handled many an eviction with that man and he does not play, when he tells someome that tjey must vacate the premises he leaves no doubt in their mind that for their health they should comply.

 

As MOONDAWG and NYPD have stated I too know of no city, county, state, or Federal department that issues Taurus® firearms. When I was still active (State), my duty gun was a Smith & Wesson®, My BUG/ODG was a Taurus®. The largest private security company in WA state (600 S/O's), issues Smith and Wesson® Mdl 10's and Taurus® Mdl 82's, both 4" barrel 38 Specials. Many female Security Officers use the following issued 357 Magnum revolvers, albeit with 38 Special ammunition; S&W Mdl 60 and Taurus® Mdl 605's, both with 3" barrels. As the threat level is different for Armed Private Security than for Police revolvers are chosen for several reasons..........
• Cost
• Ease of Use
• Faster Training Time via Shorter Learning Curve
• Reliability
• Less Ammunition Dependent
• Public Perception of Revolver as a Defensive Weapon

This particular security firm has been in business since 1927. I have been affiliated with them since 1996 as an Investigator, Field Supervisor, and a Division Supervisor. I use the following as a Primary Duty (•) and Backup (~) gun(s)..........
• S&W® Mdl 686 4" 357 Magnum
• Taurus® Mdl 669CP 4" 357 Magnum
• Taurus® Mdl 617SS2 2¼" 357 Magnum
~ Taurus® Mdl 605SS2 2" 357 Magnum
~ Taurus® Mdl 85SS2UL 2" 38 Special

 

The private security firm I work for (Anderson Security in Phoenix) issues Taurus Model 85 4" for their armed assignments.

 

The private security firm I work for (Anderson Security in Phoenix) issues Taurus Model 85 4" for their armed assignments.

Are you sure? I have only seen 2 & 3" barrel model 85's.

 

I would be mad if my only options as an armed security individual were revolvers. Reliable as all get out, but there are far better options out there.

Autoloaders? For a duty weapon, I think auto's are the only logical choice. revolver as bug, fine, but not as a primary.

 

Mindset, training, and tactics win the gun fight; not an auto loader vs revolver. It's not what you shoot; it is HOW YOU SHOOT.

 

Several Security Companies around D.C. were issued either S&W Model 10s or Taurus Model 82s. They used to train at the Range that we used. Up there, they had a fair chance of having to use them, too.

Several local PDs in Prince George's County, Maryland allowed Taurus handguns on their approved off-duty list, as well. All of these departments issued duty guns, mostly whatever the Maryland State Police had decided to award the bid to that year. This allowed them to save money by piggy-backing onto the bid price.

Until the past couple of years, Taurus had no LEO Division. Most American agencies also require an American location for the plant, too. ALL of the federal bids do. That often disqualifies Taurus from the running.

We need to remember that Taurus us a Brazilian manufacturer, and they will have different priorities than America. So far, they've shown little interest in the American LEO community (or their administrators). It has little to do with quality, as Ruger isn't a large LEO supplier, nor is Colt or HK. Yet, nobody doubts their quality. Heck, until the M&P semi, S&W couldn't GIVE a pistol to LEOs.

 

Glock and Sig Sauer command the largest chunk of the American LE market (80% between the 2 of them in some accounts)

S&W is rising FAST with the M&P pistols, and Springfield has carved a niche with their fabulous XD.

 

Taurus was and is considered for those in the LEO field as guns to buy if they have to buy their own or for off duty.

Mas Ayoob and Chuck Karwan are the authors of Gun Digest Book Of Combat Handgunnery. The same is true for other periodicals that say the same thing.

If youcheck several of the Police online blogs or chat rooms Taurus models get high praise and are used by a surprising number of officers.

 

I hate to say this....I really do......but.......
If I had to purchase my own firearm for duty use, .....it would be a Glock.
For one major reason...the vast majority of Agencies have access to a Glock Armorer with an inventory of parts or the ability to quickly get them. The pistol can be back in service in short order....most times a few minutes.
This is not possible with Taurus (or some other manufacturers as well).

 

very true, what hurts taurus the most is it's lack of aftermarket or oem supply. If they'd flood the market with parts and magazines everyone owner and forjas would be better off.

 

NONE. I do remeber back in 1984 when I was with the 82nd I got one of the Ruger P series pistols to test.( I still have it..it does not have a serial number, it is just marked DOD TEST on the slide) .I don't know why we went with the Beretta. The Ruger passed all the tests but one. ( this was during the change from the 1911)The grip or frame was too big for female hands. And the operator designed thing on the 24/7 OSS is crap. It may have come from input from operators, but the government would never have purchased it and have not. Some units I have been assigned too will allow you to carry your own personal side arm, but I do not know of any who chose the OSS. Hell, I carried my own Colt Python for about 6 months, because I thought it was cool, but the sand and crap destroyed it. SO I went back to an all steel AMT 1911 Harballer.

 

Taurus is also a world arms seller and does a booming business outside the USA. This country is an important part of their market, but only so big as it is.

If Taurus wants a larger part of the market they'd have to take on Glock and SIG with a pistol that is modular (maybe), be able to train armorers well, and make it as easy or near as easy as the Glock or SIG 250 to work with. At least be in that ballpark area.

They could start with small police departments and work their way through with them to the bigger ones.

Maybe lend or donate guns,long and sidearms, to cash strapped small village, town small county, or small city forces. That gets a major load of publiicty and goodwill.

In periodicals, weekly gun periodicals, and gun magazines that has been documented very well. Might even make it to gun T.V. programs. So,Taurus, if your lurking out there you might want to look into it. Sometimes it costs money to make some.

With elections coming up if things go the wrong way Taurus more than likely wouldn't commit to such a thing. That's an educated guess.

 

When I bought my PT100AF 3 years ago, it was a LEO turn-in, retired due to a broken extractor. From what I gathered, they had about 15-20 PT100AF pistols that were issued to the rookies and for range use. After "passing muster", they were issued Beretta 96's, and recently switched to Springfield Xd and/or Glock. After you've been with the dept for 5 years, then you could qualify with and carry whatever you preferred on-duty. Several of the "vets" either carry good ol' 1911 clones or .45 ACP Xd's.

 

"And the operator designed thing on the 24/7 OSS is crap. It may have come from input from operators, but the government would never have purchased it and have not."

Since when did the government start listening to non-professional's OPINIONS? You don't like it? So what?

Others do. I don't care for Glock's grip-angle, and I don't own one. However, I don't somehow tell everyone that it's crap, and the government will never purchase, and hasn't.

Again, how many large orders for agency use has Ruger received? Or CZ? Or HK recently? Yet, nobody seems to find it unusual.

 

Badge, due to your injury and expertise, all I have to say is rock on!

I was speaking not individually to you, but as a general rule. Revolvers aren't without their place, but there are better options for a duty weapon in my opinion. It sounds for your situation a auto would not be the best alternative, you have made your choice, and it sounds like you have trained dutifully.

My post may have been a little more flip than I intended. Revolvers have their place, but auto's are better for the general population.

 

Be happy, To make the U.S. government purchase a Taurus they would probably have to raise the price by $1000 per gun.

 

Seems I once heard the San Francisco police standard issue sidearms are pink TCPs.

 

Don't go insulting TCPs now. :angel:

 

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