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I'm going to try a fixed stock AR carbine for a while.

11K views 32 replies 19 participants last post by  chicharrones  
#1 ·
For the few times I've taken my 16" barreled AR out shooting, I never quite warmed up to the collapsible M4 type stock. Partly due to my AR being muzzle heavy with a medium weight barrel.

Anyway, at Fulton Armory I found they had stripped surplus A1 buttstocks. So that's what I got, with an A2 buttplate, and the rest of the stuff to convert it over.

So far, I like it. :icon_cool:

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After and Before . . . :angel:

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#4 ·
Funny, I just took an adjustable off and AK and put a fixed stock on it also. I'm probably going to take a heat gun to it and see if I can drop the comb some. I must have beady eyes as I can't get down on the iron sights with either one.
 
#7 ·
Had both, a Bushmaster with adjustable and Stag with fixed. Liked the solid stock better for shooting but let a friend have both rifles. Just not a fan of semi auto center fire rifles. The Stag was a match rifle and as accurate as any 223 bolt gun I have ever shot. They are great coyote and critter guns, to me the solid stock is much more comfortable.
 
#8 ·
Always preferred the fixed stocks as well, and for competition long range rifle, you have to have it with a fixed stock at least if you are going to compete in service rifle division, i prefer service rifle division because all of the equipment is largely equal, in the open division, you cant really compete with someone who has very deep pockets and tricked out the rifle so much that anyone could bullseye with it.
 
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#12 ·
Nice work! I personally prefer the fixed stock.
 
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#13 ·
on my 9mm i'm running the a1 stock and rifle buffer with additional weights, that and a good spring really smoothed it out.

you also get a lot more 'dead blow" effect with the rifle buffer.

i was running one of the solid m4 style buffers, and m4 stock --that darned thing wanted to let the bolt bounce back--blowbacks have some 'funny" properties that gas guns don't have--so there sort of tweky with buffer types and weights, even more so than a 5.56--
 
#16 ·
Thinking of going the fixed stock route also. I have the DPMS Sportical and I'm pretty sure it has a commercial buffer assembly, as opposed to mil-spec. Will any stock fit it?
 
#17 ·
Thinking of going the fixed stock route also. I have the DPMS Sportical and I'm pretty sure it has a commercial buffer assembly, as opposed to mil-spec. Will any stock fit it?
Those carbine buffer tubes, buffers, and springs won't work with most fixed rifle length stocks. You will have to get a rifle buffer assembly and hardware for the GI type buttstocks and most aftermarket fixed rifle length stocks.

However, I have seen that Magpul offers a fixed stock that goes right onto a carbine buffer tube which would save money over going to a fixed stock that requires a change out of hardware.

Carbine Commerical Spec Tube FIXED & PRECISION ADJUSTABLE STOCKS ? AR15/M16 Type Rifles, FN FAL, HK G3 - MOE® Fixed Carbine Stock ? Commercial-Spec Model

Carbine MilSpec Tube FIXED & PRECISION ADJUSTABLE STOCKS ? AR15/M16 Type Rifles, FN FAL, HK G3 - MOE® Fixed Carbine Stock ? Mil-Spec Model

What kind of fixed stock are you looking into? I can list out what I had to buy for my set up if you want.
 
#19 ·
It is a real pity they are not making these any more.



I have two of them. One is a .458 SOCOM and the other is a .300 Blackout




One piece thermoplastic lower receivers. No buffer tube, uses carbine recoil spring and buffer, and you have lots of parts left over from your standard LPK. Stronger than the regular lower setup and about a half pound lighter. The stock is A2 length. There was another variant being developed with a SAW type butt, but BATFE litigated Cavalry Arms out of the business of building lower receivers, almost like they are doing the 80% poly receivers now.

I had heard rumors that some company out of Phoenix, AZ was bringing them back into production, but I have not seen anything about them in the last few years. I really love mine and wish I had bought more of them.
 
#22 ·
I like it. Prefer the fixed stock myself.
 
#24 ·
Good to know the Cav Arms MkII is back in production. I have heard that those "Glow in the Dark, also called Moonglow" lowers go for some very high prices when they come up for auction. Both of my lowers are of the MKII configuration, one runs a .458 SOCOM upper and the other is a .300 Blackout. Strangely, the lowers come with the receiver pins, or speed pins. Any LPK will work with these lowers, but you will have parts left over. The cassette style triggers also work well in these lowers. If you want to modify, or otherwise make changes to these lowers, Bondo is the material to use. I felt that the magazines were a little loose in the mag well and just added some Bondo to the front of the mag well and used a file to give it a nice tight (but still drops free) fit. I use Krylon Fusion spray paint to touch it up. This stuff works better that Duracoat on poly. I was thinking about making the pistol grip fully customized using Bondo, but then I discovered the Hogue Handall. A little liquid soap on the inside of the Handall, slide it on and rinse off with water. In the last few years I have never had it move around on me. And it works like it was made for this lower.

I read through the history of the CAV Arms lower receivers in the articles you posted and I was a little surprised that there was no mention of the special run called "CAV AID 2008" with that lightly embossed along with a CAV AID serial number (not the actual serial number but the limited run number) on the right side of the magazine well. This run was made by "friends" of Cavalry Arms to help raise money for their legal defense. I have No. 268.

One of the articles says these lowers are best suited for the pencil barreled, lightweight uppers, but I beg to differ. They really come into their own with SBRs, reminding me of some of the sub-guns from WWII and I will tell you that one set up with a .45 ACP SBR upper is what first caught my attention. And they are also like the 1911 in that they seem to multiply overtime. A 10" barreled SBR in .300 Blackout with a pistol silencer would be something special.

One other thing, someone mentioned the Cav Arms butt pads and having no metal support. It has been a while since I have pulled mine off, but I seem to remember that it had a hard plastic 1/4" thick insert in the butt pad, so there was no need for a metal plate. Recoil itself with these thermal plastic lowers is a little less than with a regular aluminium lower, most probably due to the "give" in the plastic. For whatever reason, my .458 SOCOM kicks like a good little 20 gauge gas auto and not the shoulder bruising thumper the .458 SOCOM has a rep for being.

Darn, I already have 3 ARs and now you tell me the CAV Arms MKII is back in production.
 
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#25 ·
I really like the fixed stock style myself.... maybe because I started with a fixed stock M16 about a million years ago.

I have a number of them but these two are my favorites. The first picture is an M16 I built about 4 years ago. I wanted to make a gun as close as I could get to a GI Issue M16. Every part on the gun is US Government Surplus circa 1968 - 1969 including the flash hider and bayonet. The only exception is the stripped lower. An authentic full auto lower is more money than I want to spend.

The second picture is an MSR (Modern Sport Rifle) I built so the antigun folks will think it's harmless because it is not black!

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#30 ·
I have a number of them but these two are my favorites. The first picture is an M16 I built about 4 years ago. I wanted to make a gun as close as I could get to a GI Issue M16. Every part on the gun is US Government Surplus circa 1968 - 1969 including the flash hider and bayonet.

The second picture is an MSR (Modern Sport Rifle) I built so the antigun folks will think it's harmless because it is not black!
Nice. Very nice, indeed. :thumb:
 
#28 ·
You know I have been picking at Olfarhors about pink ARs, but maybe this is really your photo.



...and you probably got the pink because the Moonglow, yellow, blue, purple, red, burgandy and electric green were all sold out.
 
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#32 ·
I like the Magpul fixed stock. Just a little different look than the standard A2.

 
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