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Back in mid December Louisiana added Wisconsin as a state they would honor. I look for a few more states to add WI in the coming months. The total number that will eventually add WI I am not sure of. WI is so swamped with applications they are way behind and don’t have time to do much else. Some states require anything official before they will honor another state. They have moved people into the License Section from other Divisions to help out. They don’t want to go over the 21 days they are allowed by law now.

WI will honor the Non Resident VA License but not the Resident License. This is because VA has their own data base they check their resident applicant’s background with while they use the NICS for Non Resident applicants. WI requires the NICS to honor a permit/license.

John Farnam had a nice little piece (John Farnam's Quips - 05Jan12.html - The Lemming League! ) on knowing the firearm laws of the different states. The happenings in NYC brought this about with people stating those people should have known the law. In most instances they should but the laws are getting so long and spread out that Mr. Farnam stated:
The problem today with "knowing the law," particularly with regard to gun laws, is that the law is unknowable! Have you ever actually read every NYC and NY state gun law, or, for that matter, gun laws of every other state, municipality, county in which you may ever find yourself?

I agree with him completely. There are so many that no one can know them all. Something is wrong when the citizens can’t figure out what their laws are and what they have to do to stay within the law.

California moved many of their gun laws in their statutes. Every gun law in the 12000’s of their statutes were moved. Many of those laws were listed like 12051(a)(2) (B) etc etc with every paragraph going to another letter or number. They moved them and gave them all a 5 digit number. 19050, 19051 etc etc. Their knife laws are now mentioned in Penal Code 20310, 20410, 20610, 20910, 21110 when they use to be all right together

Georgia is becoming a pain. From all I can find out their AG is at odds with the RKBA’s community. ( I am not from GA) In My opinion based on those I have talked to it stems from the recent changes in GA gun laws over the last couple years. The AG didn’t like them. He is also newly elected in 2010. Case in point, ND told me that they have confirmed that GA will honor their Permit/License in mid 2010. GA still has not add ND to the list of states they honor. They will not even talk about adding Iowa or Wisconsin who honor them. GA law is very specific when it comes to honoring other states.

§ 16-11-126. Having or carrying handguns, long guns, or other weapons; license requirement; exceptions for homes, motor vehicles, and other locations and conditions; penalties for violations

(e) Any person licensed to carry a handgun or weapon in any other state whose laws recognize and give effect to a license issued pursuant to this part shall be authorized to carry a weapon in this state, but only while the licensee is not a resident of this state; provided, however, that such licensee shall carry the weapon in compliance with the laws of this state.
So if another state honors theirs they will honor them. GA does nothing. The law says they have to honor those states but they will not list them which means many citizens of GA and those who wish to travel there are being told by the GA AG’s website that they will not honor them when the law says they must. (I agree with people when they state confirm with the State when looking at information at www.handgunlaw.us) How can you confirm when phone calls don’get answers. I have never called for people to contact a state but it sure would be nice if people would call or FAX the GA AG asking them why they have not added ND, WI and IA to the list of states they honor. Be very nice if you do call or FAX and just ask. Getting angry or harsh words won’t help. If they get ask enough they may do something. Phone: (404) 656-3300 Fax:(404) 657-8733 They do not have E-mail that they make public though I have emailed 4 Pro Firearm GA Senators asking them “Why” their AG will not list those states. I am also FAX’ing a letter in the AM.
 

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Sometimes you get better feed back from a local state attorney's office usually found at county seats.
 

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Coming from Maryland, I find Georgia's Second Amendment attitude refreshing. As to how long it takes for a state to recognize another states newly minted CCW law matters little. The State's AG is not going to delay just because he is upset with the laws that he must uphold. If he is, he'll be replaced quickly. I think it's more a matter of inertia.

Sorry that the officials that you contacted didn't drop everything to help you, but, it IS politicians that you're talking about. I'd worry about other states, and how they issue, and how long it takes to issue, CCWs before I carried my troubles interstate.

Additionally, do ND, WI, and Ill. all recognize Georgia's CCW? If they don't, Georgia won't recognize theirs, either.
 

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The AG was elected in 2010. Since then no one has been added. GA Law says they will honor anyone who honors them. ND, IA and WI honor their License. The RKBA's groups in GA have been trying to get him to add them. ND actually talked to GA in Mid 2010 and GA state they would honor it. GA Has still not posted that yet. The AG before this one made big splashes in the press releases every time they would honor another state and that state would honor theirs. Nothing since he has taken over. I am asking politicians to help also. Everyone believes he is holding things up for just that purpose as he is not a friend of the RKBA's.
 

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I'm not familiar with RKBA. What does this stand for?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Here is a link to the concealed carry USA website. There is an interactive map there. Click on a state and it shows you which other states recognizes that's states CCW as a reciprocity. This tool is reliably up to date - I would imagine.

As far as what Georgia, or any other state will do in the future, no one can probably say for sure but I believe the trend nationally has been for more and more "Must issue" status. I believe reciprocity will eventually follow suit in most cases as it does take a little time to build momentum behind any new activities/trends - particularly one in the forefront of society and getting as much attention as gun laws are now recieving nationally.

Concealed Carry Permit Reciprocity Maps
 

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Just feel like it sometimes.
 

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Sometimes those acronyms are pretty hard to decypher. I think that while it might take a little more ink, paper, and time to write it out these outfits just want to keep people confused!:mad:
 
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