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I think Taurus is the worst when it comes to how dirty their guns are when first picked up, followed closely by Springfield.

Here is my Tracker .357 after removing the side plate and an initial wipe with a cloth. The yellowish coating on the trigger, hammer, frame etc... is almost like a varnish. In fact it took nothing less than carb cleaner to blast it off as it wouldn't come off with elbow grease and action blaster gun cleaner.

The black particles are a combination of metal dust and grease, presumably from machining. Things are much better now after a healthy dose of carb cleaner and CLP. I will do a complete writeup on the Tracker as soon as I get more time at the range with it. And for those of you with good eye's, notice the rear sight? See how it's sitting on the frame? The gun was, out of the box, shooting at least six inches low at ten yards. I've adjusted the sight and will be out with it again this week.




I can post an exploded view of the pistols internals if anyone would like. The internals are the same for many of the Taurus revolvers.
 

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Well guys you've got to remember that these guns are coming from Brazil. They take a ride in a ship over the big pond full of that salty wet stuff. I guess I'd rather wipe some grease off than scrub rust.
 

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well even if they come by air, which is probably more likely, they may be in storage for months on end before being sold. So rust could be a problem. I guess what bugs some people is seeing metal particles from the assemble process, in manufacturing.

But I would much rather have to clean it out, than open it up and find the parts covered with a layer of rust.
 

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Hi Justice4all--I for one would appreciate an exploded view of the internals, have a new 17C which feels good but would like to at least take a look inside. Its been 12-15 years since I've been inside a Taurus. Thanks in advance.
 

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Handgun porn:

Take it apart baby, take it apart.
 

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i had my local gun shop order me a new taurus 605 last week. it came in yesterday so i went to take a peek. mine was at least that dirty on the exterior of the gun. when i opened the cylinder the first time & took out the little red cylinder cover, what looked like brass flakes were stuck all over the inside of the cylinders and all down the barrel as well. it was really disheartening to see the brand new gun all covered in crap straight outta the box. i bought a new springfield xd45 a few months ago & it was extremely clean on the outside, inside was ok as well just a lot of excess grease. still can't wait to get the Taurus off layaway though...gonna have a gun cleaning party then shoot the bejeezus out of it. ;D
 

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After reading this thread I took my new 850 apart last night. It is very clean. I don't know if I was thrilled with how little lube was in there, but it was very clean.

Bill
 

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As I mentioned in another post my new 608 received this week was absolutely filthy out of the box. It took over 45 minutes of intense cleaning to remove the burnt powder off of the cylinder and forcing cone before I felt comfortable enough to take it to the range and get it dirty all over again. Come on Taurus.....little things make big impressions. Your customers deserve (and pay) for a new gun not one that looks pre-used.
 

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rainman said:
As I mentioned in another post my new 608 received this week was absolutely filthy out of the box. It took over 45 minutes of intense cleaning to remove the burnt powder off of the cylinder and forcing cone before I felt comfortable enough to take it to the range and get it dirty all over again. Come on Taurus.....little things make big impressions. Your customers deserve (and pay) for a new gun not one that looks pre-used.
how confident are you that you actually have a new, not used revolver? something that dirty sounds like it may have been through the wringer a time or 2
 

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My 627 was spotless inside and out. No grit or debris under the sideplate, just oil at the right spots.

Maybe it was a Tues., Wed. or Thurs. assembled revolver.
 

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My 617 must have been put together on a Friday. You can see the burrs from the manufacturing process still inside the bottom of the grip. I took the side plate off and it was nasty inside.

I have put probably about 1500 rounds through it with no malfunctions, but I now know why taurus wheelguns are so inexpensive. Thier QC sucks.

I love the gun and it has performed flawlessly for me. So a little cleaning don't bother me any.
 

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how confident are you that you actually have a new, not used revolver? something that dirty sounds like it may have been through the wringer a time or 2
That thought did cross my mind. My confidence that it is new gun is very suspect. It shoot well and all functions seem to work as advertised. The lock up is good and it seems tight. I'll keep my eye on it though. It was purchased through Gallery of Guns and they have a very liberal return policy so if something goes wrong I'll send it back to them in a heart beat.
 

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my semi auto Taurus was dirty like that when i first got it
 
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