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After spending 14 days in the Socialist Union of Illinois over the course of my winter vacation I wondered on several occasions why the laws in that place were so biased against a legal citizen carrying a firearm.Being the kind of man who seeks the answers to a question, I endeavored to discover why it was that places like Illinois and places of similar policy have laws the way they do.

I discovered on research that gun control is expensive. Databases, ballistic test centers, and anti-firearm task forces cost money.That is simply the explicit expenses, not including the expense of processing firearm owners ID cards, purchase and ownership permits, paperwork on both tasks, background check expenses, mail costs , and so forth. Shutting down the FOID program would save the state of Illinois millions of dollars in expenses.

So if the state is spending money on a program designed to limit the ability of someone to own firearms, what does the state get in return for their investment?

It certainly isn't stopping gun crime.FOID cards do not ID criminals. When a cop does catch a crook because of a violent crime either the gun charge is plea bargained away or adds a miniscule amount of time to the felon's sentence, which is made even shorter due to the liberal sentencing policies some judges have to violent felons.

It is also established that gun control systems do not save the state money.What the state does get for its money is control.

Armed felons pose at worst a minor threat to a government.No head of state has ever died from a bullet fired from a drug dealer's firearm.Politicians have instruments such as the police and various forms of elite units to ensure that a criminal attack on their person would be a foolish act to undertake. Even a stupid predator knows that attacking a well disciplined force of men is a bad business decision.

Thus a criminal organization no matter how powerful cannot threaten a sovereign government via force alone.There are cases where criminals do control the governments of nations, but I will address that matter soon enough.

Back to topic the government has no interest in controlling criminals, as crime does not affect them. Whether the homicide rate is zero or 20% of the population, the mayor, president, prime minister, and high level officials will not be targeted for ordinary crime.No common burglar is going to burgle the governors mansion.

This leads to the next point;leaders in government fear an armed citizen and consequent revolt as much as they do not fear criminals. One class of people has no track record of threatening government officials via force, while the other has a long and celebrated history of overthrowing leaders who took too much from the public till. It takes no great leap of imagination to see which category of people a sitting political leader would want to ensure is disarmed.

Coming back to states with governments under the thumbs of criminal entities, in those cases the situation is not so much of the political system being taken over by sheer force but a case of criminals allying with politicians to rob and pillage under the same corrupt flag. Since certain public officials are in office attempting to uphold their mandate to serve the people instead of robbing the same this causes situations where the non-corrupt members of government are targeted for attack by the criminal allies of the bent members of the state.
Mexico, Columbia of the past, and American urban centers suffer from this form of oppression where the criminals use their considerable financial and physical muscle to offer their services to the government -with the caveat that such forces not be used against the government itself.

Thus, armed criminals are not a problem for a government. In fact, an armed group of people of low moral character who are loyal to your beck and call might be just the ticket for anything from adding money to your campaign fund to directly campaigning for you in the tenements and slums of your voting district.

Between the criminals and the police the only armed subgroup not under orders of the city , state, or national leaders are the armed civilians.
Thus, when the state pays millions of dollars to infringe on the rights of its supposed citizens its money well spent to ensure the people in authority stay that way. Gun control thus becomes the insurance policy of the governing, and has nothing to do with stopping crime, which is proven to have no threat to the governing authorities .

Just figured I would offer my thoughts on the matter, and im open to being ruthlessly criticized by the TA elite if need be!;)
 

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Thanks for sharing some interesting perspectives with us.
 

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I would like you permission to reproduce this and copy my state representatives in my weekly e mail on gun control... You did a great job. Thanks
 

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I would like you permission to reproduce this and copy my state representatives in my weekly e mail on gun control... You did a great job. Thanks
Permission Granted.
 

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Mao Tse-Tung is credited with the following

“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun."
 

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Lawmakers job is to make laws, nobody said they have the brains to make good ones. This is a perfect example of why we need less Govt.
 
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No brainer to me
To be honest why do our senior elected officials need so much protection? mainly because of policies that they have ordered/ endorsed....most of the attacks have been carried out by nut jobs.
Cant protect against that....so they get protected and the lower citizen gets shot. Where the lower citizen is probably doing more for this country than the higher up!
 

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Some very excellent point made there. Mind if I share with AR15.com? Naturally I will give you the credit.
 

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You make some interesting points. Additionally, Politicians seek to look "tough on crime" and wish to engender in the common folk a sense of security in the dangerous world we call life. Registration and restriction are the pablum that our "father figure" political leaders feed the unsuspecting electorate to lull us into that false sense of security and continue the belief that they have our best interests at heart (while they dig deeper in our pockets).
 
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Put your name on a ballot, at least you are speaking the truth.
 

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Excellent analysis.
 

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Some very excellent point made there. Mind if I share with AR15.com? Naturally I will give you the credit.
Go right ahead.
 

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Very good points made, I would like to offer more.

To us, the gun owners and shooters of America we see most Gun Control Laws as worthless and an infringement on our 2nd Ammendment Rights. Now look at and think about the citizens that have never even held a gun and probably never will. They see guns as things that kill innocent people whether used by a criminal or found by little Suzi or Johnny in their playground. They get these ideas from the media and from television programming. The Hollywood Elite, Politicans, and News Anchors/Reporters love to express their views of controversial subjects such as Gun Control, Abortion, Animal Rights, Gay Rights, Oil Drilling or whatever because it stirs up emotions and fears in folks and gets them noticed and recognized. If a subject will draw attention and provide a way to get a person noticed then they will align themselves with the cause whatever it may be and whether they really believe in it or not. They prey on the fears and ignorance of people who live in the major cities and suburban areas and really think they are being protected by the police and stricter laws. Many of these people live their lives in fear day to day but will never own a firearm or learn to use one because of what they see on TV or hear from their favorite Movie/Soap Star, News Anchor or Politician. Sadly, a big portion of these people couldn't tell you what the Constution is or what it and the Amendments are about.
 

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Very good. Thanks for the analysis.
 

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Yup, kind of goes back to a paper, that a bunch of guys who were familiar with the addiction and corruption created by power, wrote.............the Bill of Rights.

It's nothing new. Government will 'always' attempt to enslave it's citizenry as much as it can, and to varying degrees, this takes place in ALL countries, including the U.S.. And the two major items it needs to do that is 1. your wealth (power), and 2. your submission. And the acquisition of these is always sold as 'for the public good'.

An emergency, be it phony, or real, is a good way to grab it in big chunks. But in lieu of an emergency, the guvment usually does it in baby steps, as not to rile too many people, to much, at one time, and thus numb them more and more to the intrusion.

And guvment (large or small) doesn't care which order, but generally your submission first makes it easier to rob your wealth. Although nickel and diming you (robbing your power) to death (boiling the frog) can lead to submission. But if submission (disarming to prevent revolt) can be attained first, then the robbing part is easy. And by then, you can easily be robbed of your last weapon also.......your vote.

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ”

Vladimir Lenin

Nothing new under the sun.
 
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