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Why does a Raging Bull in .454 cost more money ($100+) than one in .44mag (or .41 and .480 if they still mae them)? :???: Don't they all start as the same chunk of metal?
 

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Who knows? Maybe it's a formula something like this:

454 Casull = 4+5+4 which equals 13
44 Magnum = 4+4 which equals 8
480 Ruger = 4+8+0 equals 12

Therefore the 454 Casull is the most expensive one. :D :D :???:
 

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LOL very good one NYPD, you may be closer to the truth than you think. :thumb:
 

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Sort of like, "Why is insurance on a Cadillac so high??" I think part of it is that they figure if you want to shoot a round that is so large and powerful, etc, etc, you'll pay what you have to for a gun with which to shoot it. Nobody would pay a "premium", as it were, for a 38 Special or 45. Also, maybe the "status symbol" aspect of the Casull weapon raises the price somewhat. My $.02.
 

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Seems to be the same for the 500 Magnum as well -- when you can find one. They're scarce critters these days. :)
 

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Very true cpt, that is what we are saying, back when I shot allot and reloaded the Casull was just coming out and still a "wildcat" he hadn't even found a cartridge mfg. yet, then he got one, shot it once in a Ruger black hawk, never shot it again. Back then everyone had to have one, but it was funny they were for sale cheap used, with low rounds shot. ;)
 

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+1 for NYPD

Case pressures are higher in the Cassull vs. .44 mag. It is my understanding that there are additional metallurgical processes required for the higher case pressures. True or not, they do cost more.
 

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how much differce between the raging bull 454 and a 44 mag?stopping power etc?
 

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Stopping power is subject to interpretation, so I won't get into that. For energy release, the cassull tends to be at least 50% more powerful, or in the below example, about 2x as powerful. I found the below on a website, I will provide a link for verification.



Chambering Bullet Velocity Energy(ft-lbs)
.480 Ruger Hornady 325-gr. XTP-MAG 1350 1313
.44 Magnum Hornady 300-gr. HP/XTP 1150 881
.45 Colt “Magnum +P” Hornady 300-gr. JSP 1300 1126
.454 Casull Hornady 300-gr. XTP-MAG 1650 1813
.475 Linebaugh Hornady 400-gr. XTP-MAG 1300 1501
NOTES: All figures are for 71/2-inch test barrels


http://www.google.com/search?q=cach....htm+compare+44+magnum+to+.454&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
 

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I will also note the .454 Cassull is more powerful than the .50AE (which is NOT the same as the 500 magnum). The .50 magnum is 50% more powerful than the Cassull, at [I believe] 26-2800 feet pounds of energy (for the .50 mag).
 

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wow ......might look at the 454
thks
 

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For hunting, I use:
.454 Casull Hornady 300-gr. XTP-MAG
They have a serious kick. However, they have stopped everything in its tracks with 1 shot. I only take a shot if I know I can hit the kill zone, so that is also part of it. I will say that you'll want to keep in mind what is behind your target. On one hunt, I killed 2 hogs with 1 shot. The second hog was accidental, I did not intend to get both. But it does go to show how powerful that round is.

Another comparison of the 300gr Hornady for the Cassull is that it packs the power of a .243 rifle in a pistol.
 

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'regular' .44mag ammo is VERY underpowered!

If you reload .44mag with H110 you can reach 1800fps with 200gr bullet, 1500-1600fps with 240-250gr and 1300fps with a 300gr. :)

Buffalo bore makes even hotter .44mag ammo!! In fact their .44mag(+p) IIRC is as powerful as their .454 load! ;)
 

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I guess the male hormons kick in, but you only need so much power guys, if not we will be getting to the BS post Sargeknuckles made about the converted Judge.
By the way Sarge, good one!!!
 

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I've seen some Raging Bull .480 Rugers on gunbroker going for the same or just a little more than the RB .44s.

Too bad commerical .480 ammo isn't more plentiful with a wider variety of loads.
 
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