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12 Gauge UltraBuck Magnum 0000 Buckshot, 2 3/4″, 10 rounds | Wolf Hill Trading Company

Not porn. Last line in that link is quoted in the title, sorta. :D

I just ordered some of this stuff for hunting on a WMA near me that allows only buckshot. I don't have a lot of faith in 00 even from my 10 gauge, decided to hunt there with 00 12 gauge in my double and put a 3" 1 ounce (yeah, probably hurt me about as bad as the hog) slug in the left barrel, rear trigger, of my old SxS spanish double gun. I got this link from a post about the use of double naught (I'm not real up on it, kinda puny penetration) on hogs. Was given this link. It has to be better, methinks, but I'll still back it up with a slug. It's not state law that I must use buckshot, but rules of the WMA. If they catch me (hard to figure out how since I'm usually the only one out there) I'll pay the fine rather than risk damage by a POed hog. :rolleyes: I'd inquired with parks and wildlife about a two or three ball 62 caliber (or something like that) load designed for hogs, but they said it would not be considered buck. I ain't askin' 'em about this stuff, it has bigger balls, but it's still buck IMHO.

Man's gotta do what he's gotta do. I'm not pullin' the trigger on that 3" slug, though, unless the eminent threat of a hog's tusks is worth the cost of a dislocated shoulder, but it'll be there if I need it. :D That gun kicks like a mule with a 2 3/4" slug, hardest kickin' gun I own. It's a little over 6 lbs, kinda light. My 10 gauge is 9 lbs, soaks up some of the punch, but I haven't tried slugs in it, don't really want to. :D
 

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I've shot slugs through my Remington Model 1100 .12 gauge shotgun...........once. :cool:
 

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I have a 12 ga. Savage Pump slug gun for the shotgun only areas of Michigan that throws 3" slugs without all that pain. But I did have a old 12ga side by side that would realy hurt you, but it turned out to be a left handers gun with the wrong cast-off for a right hand shooter, check yours maybe you got a lefty too.

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I have had shoulder surgery and I got to say after bringing tears to my eye's shooting slugs out of my Mossy pump I put on a Limbsaver shoulder pad. This thing really works I fired 4 shots back to back with NO pain at all. It has 3 chambers in it that absorb recoil vary well. I still won't shoot 3" out of it, but Brenke works fine. As well as other 1 oz slugs.

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I have a 12 ga. Savage Pump slug gun for the shotgun only areas of Michigan that throws 3" slugs without all that pain. But I did have a old 12ga side by side that would realy hurt you, but it turned out to be a left handers gun with the wrong cast-off for a right hand shooter, check yours maybe you got a lefty too.

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Well,I'm a lefty. I wish the gun was. Lookin' at the stock from the butt, though, looks cast neutral. It points rather well, could use a little more drop.. It's just light and kicks because of it. I have a 20 that's right hand cast and I shimmed the stock over much as I could. It's about neutral now and, well, it's a 20 and don't hurt me. I put a recoil pad on it, too, due to I needed more pull length. The 12 has a butt plate, no recoil pad, but I never shoot the thing anymore, don't have an application for it even if I wanted to, fixed mod/full chokes. THIS hunt, however, seems to be the perfect application as I can keep the slug in spare just in case and pull the buckshot on the pig. Also, this thing shoots slugs like a double rifle. The barrels are amazingly well regulated. The Spaniards know how to build a SxS. My little 20 has some overlap, not much, don't hurt anything, but at 50 yards, slugs overlap about 6". It's Russian, what do ya expect? :D

Anyway, if I HAVE to shoot the slug, I'll be so amped on adrenalin I'll probably not even notice it. LOL! I just don't wanna get ate by a hog I POed with buckshot. They're not dangerous animals until they get POed or feel threatened.
 

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I shoot my shotguns every weekend. I shoot anywhere from 200 to 500 rounds per outing. As I know you already understand gun fit I'll skip that. But, I would highly recommend one of the recoil pads in the link below. Kick-Eez dual action pads almost completely eliminate felt recoil. I use them on my trap guns. Granted my loads are a lot lighter than a 3" slug, mine are 1 1/8 oz., 2 3/4 or 3 Dram loads, but collectively they can add up to a sore shoulder in the gun doesn't fit and the pad doesn't absorb. The Kick Eez is the best pad I've ever used, and unlike some of the other pads on the market currently, it is not a gel sack or a soft squishy pad. It will suck up the recoil though. I never even notice any recoil from my shotguns, and that's nice!

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Wow that looks like some load. Currently I only use a .50 cal muzzleloader for hunting, but maybe this 0000 buck shot would work well in my Winchester 1300!
 

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For a just in case situation like that I thought you could carry a .45 or something. Did they change that?

If the gov can pull a .380 on a cyote and kill it to save his dog, I'd think we could protect ourselves! :D
 

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This does bring up a point everyone should always remember about a round ball has much less mass than a cone or cylinder shaped bullet of the same diameter. There is no doubt that a buckshot load has much more velocity initially than a conical pistol round, however, after 25 yards, the buckshot round falls off very quickly, not having the same mass and penetration will not be near as much depth as a bullet. A 0000 at .375" diameter is close to the same diameter as a 9mm will have 78 grains as opposed to 115 or 124 grains. So at distance, it becomes a trade off of penetration vs multiple same sized wound channels. I have a Saiga 12 lead delivery system that in semi-auto can put more pellets down range than a full auto Uzi, however, at 50 yards, the Uzi will be more effective although either will clear a street quite well.
 

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Can you carry a b/u .44 mag or something?
I can carry it, CCW in my fanny pack, but not supposed to use it for hunting. I am taking my .45 Colt Blackhawk along in case I have to blood trail in heavy cover. Been there, done that, and a handgun is the only thing one can maneuver in that stuff when you're on hands and knees.
 

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I was thinkin' about this for my 20 gauge coach gun for home defense and specialty use. It wouldn't be legal where I'm hunting, but talk about effective! I wouldn't think a hog would go far. BUT, heck, 3/0 buck is plenty for self defense.

20 guage Ball and Chain, 5 Rounds | Wolf Hill Trading Company

Main problem I see with this and the flechettes is that if you shot someone with a round, prosecutors could have a field day in court at your expense.
 

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It's the same argument used against handloads except that handloads CAN be justified via accuracy, thus safety. Or one can make a case that their handloads promote more practice via being cheaper, thus a more skilled shooter and fewer rounds flying around the neighborhood, minimal shots fired. These things, the DA would just go to town with it.

I don't know that it's a problem in Texas where either you're justified in use of deadly force or not, but can you imagine the case tried in New Jersey? I think they're illegal there, anyway, just sayin'.
 
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