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I've been using Hornaday Critical Defense in my 9mm's. What CD ammo cycles well in the TCP?
 

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I've been using Hornaday Critical Defense in my 9mm's. What CD ammo cycles well in the TCP?
well actually thats the answer that you should be giving us as to your particular weapon!
the only way to find out is try various manufactures and types and then you got it.
First obligation the self defense ammo works 120% of the time in your gun, second the ammo that prints closest to point of aim, then decide on what color the box is, if the company has a blimp, if you like their advertising, etc.
don't matter what works in our guns or in your brother in laws gun.
you got to do the work.
 

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With all due respect, thats terrible advice. Have you priced personal defense .380 ammo lately? I would much rather learn from someone else's experience for free, than spend $100 on 5 boxes of various types of ammo. These guns are all made to identical specifications, there is virtually no difference unless its a factory upgrade. The manufacturing of the ammo is where the difference comes into play.
 
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I think you are both correct in a way. I always like to see what others are successfully using in a particular gun. With the price of the defensive ammo it gives you a nice starting point. And yes you must test it in your gun to make sure it is 100% reliable.

With that being said, from my research I found Critical Defense was a common choice for the TCP. That is where I started, after 150 rounds without a single problem; I have decided to end my testing there. That is now what I carry. I do not have the luxury of doing expansion tests, so I must rely on the ammo doing what the manufacture says it will.
 
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I agree........... Find a brand that's accurate/cycles well, and is locally available and affordable. At that point your search is over. How was your groupings with the Critical Defense?
 

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I've been using Hornaday Critical Defense in my 9mm's. What CD ammo cycles well in the TCP?
I use Hornady Critical Defense ammo in my .357 Magnum snubbie and am confident that it will do the trick if I ever have to fire them in self-defense or for the defense of my family.

I started out with Speers Gold Dot Law Enforcement ammunition in my TCP and in my MilPro PT138, and this ammo works equally well with either pistol.
 

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With all due respect, thats terrible advice. Have you priced personal defense .380 ammo lately? I would much rather learn from someone else's experience for free, than spend $100 on 5 boxes of various types of ammo. These guns are all made to identical specifications, there is virtually no difference unless its a factory upgrade. The manufacturing of the ammo is where the difference comes into play.
Nope, all guns are different, none are identical. Identical specs don't mean much. For example, my blued 709 has no problem w/ WWB, but my matte 709 won't get any WWB thru w/o FTF or FTE, or something, and that's using the exact same magazine... Both made the same year, also. No upgrade, nothing. Both handle Critcal Defense w/o fail...

Now back to the TCP, my daughter (and me, since it's my gun, really) uses nothing but PPU and PMC for target and CDefense for carry. Those three work flawlessly, so I'm not changing for nothing....

Gotta make an educated guess, and try it out w/ your gun. Hopefully, you'll guess correct the 1st time....
 

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I agree........... Find a brand that's accurate/cycles well, and is locally available and affordable. At that point your search is over. How was your groupings with the Critical Defense?
If I take my time at 7 yards I can hold a 2" group with out the use of the laser. With the laser I can get that down to 1 ½” groups. I do not practice with the CD to much, it is too expensive. I will randomly mix 2 rounds of CD in with 4 rounds of my practice ammo; they all will hit center mass so I do not want to burn up a lot of CD in practice.

One of these days I will be testing a few more brands of self defense ammo as I want to have options available if CD gets hard to find. I am also working on a self defense re-load as a back-up.
 

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I agree w/ Fish -- it cuts both ways. Experience of others can help us make an informed choice, but testing in your own pistol is absolutely essential. What works well with one might not work for another. Plus, you NEED to know that a load works before you stake your life on it. BTW, I will make my usual pitch for Federal's Hydra-shok. It's a great round with a good track record. Here is a good review of the Hydra-shok, and he also does some performance reviews on other .380 loads as well:

 

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When it comes to "micro blasters", tolerences and the forces neccesary for reliable performance becomes critical.

Trial and error is the "only" way to ensure what will work in each individual gun.

Not the answer the OP might have wanted, but none the less the truth...
 

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every gun is made to a spec, but every spec has a tolerance. hence, no two parts are exactly the same, let alone two whole guns be exactly the same.
 

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Ok Guys this my original post:Whats the best Personal Defense ammo for use in a TCP?Obviously, I don't want to spend $100 on various types of PD ammo. If I had money to throw away, I could spend it on hookers and beer. Unfortunately, money is a little tight at the moment. I'm looking for those of you that have had good luck with a particular brand in your TCP, and would like to share that info. Obviously, I'm not going to use ammo in my CCW that I haven't tried first. I'm just trying to get to a good starting point without wasting money.
 

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well OK, heres what self defense ammo works in my TCP 738!
Speer Gold Dot 90 grain, Hornady FTX, Hornady XTP, Fiocchi extrema XTP, Remington Golden Sabre 102 grain, Copper Only Projectiles 80 grain.
but again you can't have my gun.-LOL
 

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Whats the best Personal Defense ammo for use in a TCP?
Should read; "Whats the best Personal Defense ammo for use in YOUR TCP?"

Nobody but you will know what's best in yours, but I'd go by the greatest common denominator and work my way down if you want to save money.

I haven't found one that doesn't work yet... either I'm lucky or you won't have to try too hard to find one that works.
 

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Exactly- I would venture to say that Most 738's will work on most modern design self defense ammo, so its not like you will likely need to buy 20 different brands to find one that functions 100% in the gun, but there just may be one that doesn't work in the particular gun.
as my belief is that basically all modern self defense ammo works equally well as to performance on a target then simply find the one that does work and be done with it.
if later you get curious or a friend has a handfull of different ammo to let you try then do so.. cull out what doesn't work and use the rest.
I would bet that i have at least 12 to 15 different self defense ammoes in various calibers in different maagzines for my guns, all have been tested and all work.
if not in the boxes with the purdy colors most can't tell one brand from the other!-LOL
 

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With all due respect, thats terrible advice. Have you priced personal defense .380 ammo lately? I would much rather learn from someone else's experience for free, than spend $100 on 5 boxes of various types of ammo. These guns are all made to identical specifications, there is virtually no difference unless its a factory upgrade. The manufacturing of the ammo is where the difference comes into play.
So basically what you are saying is that it isnt worth your own life, if the situation dictated the use of your TCP, to test fire several different ammo makes to see what will work in your weapon? My wife and myself have Identical TCP's and although mine cycles Critical Defense without issue hers only likes Federal and will FTF and FTE about every 3 rounds of Hornady. So from personal experience I can tell you that you are wrong in your assumption.

If you are going to carry a weapon that may be used to defend your or any other life you need to put in the time and money yourself to make absolutely certain that the ammo I or anyone else recommends will save your life. When it comes down to it I know that after I spend my 28 rounds of .45 from my 1911 that I have 6 more that I CAN count on from my TCP that is in my pocket. I know for a fact, barring a faulty round or catastrophic failure of my weapon that it will go bang when I pull the trigger.

I have seen this question more and more lately, the fact is no one can tell you what will work in your weapon unless you bought it used from the actual owner. I for one domt take someones word on anything that could involve the safety of my wife, kids or myself. Me telling you that Hornady makes the most reliable round is no different than me handing you my wifes TCP loaded with it, you only have about a 33% chance that it will work for you. I just wouldnt trust my life on a 67% chance of failure.
 
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+1 on problems cycling Hornady Critical Defense. I have used it without issues in my 9mm, but my TCP gave me issues with failure to extract when I tried that ammo. I have since had my TCP back to Miami for some work and haven't re-tried CD since then. It might work like a champ now... not sure until I get a chance to try it again.
 
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