Whats is the smallest and lightest, affordable .410 shotgun??

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Raptorboy69

Discussion Starter · Jan 21, 2013

My 10 year old son wants to shoot some skeet too. He is a tall but very slender boy and will need a very light .410. Something he can swing. Single shot is fine. The guys at the skeet range won't mind sending singles instead of doubles for the kids. Has anyone had one of the little guys?? Who know what???

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glenwolde

· #2 · Jan 21, 2013

Mossberg's got something they call Mini Super Bantam. That's a good name.

It has an adjustable stock so it can grow with him.

http://www.basspro.com/Mossberg-reg...uge-w-18-1-2-Barrel-Shotgun/product/10218685/

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Raptorboy69

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 21, 2013

glenwolde said:
Mossberg's got something they call Mini Super Bantam. That's a good name.

It has an adjustable stock so it can grow with him.

Mossberg® 510 Mini Super Bantam .410 Gauge w/18-1/2'' Barrel Shotgun | Bass Pro Shops[/Q

I saw that one. It's a great looking gun and I love the fact that it can grow with him. I'm gonna find one to see if he can sholder and swing it.

texastaurusguy

· #4 · Jan 21, 2013

Rossi has a 410 shotgun that has a barrel for a 22.

This link is for Academy, but I'm pretty sure you can find it cheaper than this.

Academy - Rossi Youth .22 LR/.410 Break-Open Rifle/Shotgun Combo

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MissKitty

· #5 · Jan 21, 2013

+1 on the Mossberg. I shot one at the Women on Target event and it is very light. I really liked it!

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CB236

· #6 · Jan 21, 2013

At the age of 10, I was hunting dove and deer with my Stevens M67E 12ga pump. And my picture was in the dictionary under skinny. You might also want to consider a nice 20ga as well. There are plenty of them available to choose from.

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glenwolde

· #7 · Jan 21, 2013

Raptorboy69 said:
I saw that one. It's a great looking gun and I love the fact that it can grow with him. I'm gonna find one to see if he can sholder and swing it.

That gun is $269 at Academy down here so you can probably find it cheaper than Bass Pro. I almost bought one just because it was so damn cute. It may be twice what a single shot is, but considering he could grow into it....

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Raptorboy69

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jan 21, 2013

That Rossi is pretty cool!! The price is right.

jimb1972

· #9 · Jan 21, 2013

I still have the H&R single shot 410 that was the first gun I owned, still drag it out once in a while too. Singles can usually be found used for under $100 and are perfect for a first shotgun.

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centaur70

· #10 · Jan 21, 2013 (Edited)

I agree with jimb a single shot New england/H&R .410 is around 100 dollars and is perfect for a beginner length just a hair under 41" weight about 6 pounds 10 oz Barrel length is 25.5 inches and a full choke

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TheOldRedneck

· #11 · Jan 22, 2013

I'm going to add something else to think about. The 410 is usually thought of as a kids gun, but when you get into shooting clays they handicap a kid. The difference between a 410 and 20 with skeet loads is a lot of pellets. I'm past 60 and have watched a lot of grown men that were good wing shots miss birds with a 410. Shells for a 20 are cheaper than 410 shells. The 20 has a longer reach with a better pattern. You can also get reduced loads for a 20. I own several 410's and like them, but we usually start kids and women with a 20. There are usually pump 20's with choke tubes at the box stores. A friend got a Mossberg 20 in 3" mag that came with a full choke tube for under $200 this past fall. I think the extra improve cylinder choke tube was under $20.

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Lil Beaver

· #12 · Jan 22, 2013

Personally I agree with many experienced shooter when they say a 410 shotgun is a handicap for young shooters and even many experienced shooters as well. A lightweight 20 ga. with reduced trap loads should be available that would suit the needs you set out and would give your son a better chance of scoring hits than would a 410. JMHO! Light 20ga. loads will not have much more recoil than a 410.

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Texheim

· #13 · Jan 22, 2013

I bought an H&R single shot for $99.

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LonestarJake

· #14 · Jan 22, 2013 (Edited)

Winchester does make a 3/4 ounce load in 20 gauge, the shells are about half what you would pay for a 1/2 ounce load of 2 1/2" .410 and the kid won't get dissatisfied with a 20 as quickly as with a .410 and you will save enough on ammo to buy his next shotgun.

I raised 3 sons and 4 grandsons so far with a 20 break-open, even though we had a .410 single, break-open Stevens. I did have a slip on recoil pad.

I do love the old .410 single for rabbits and tree rats, but it has a full choke and is great for that purpose.

Nearly every .410 I have ever seen has a full choke, and that is some disadvantage for skeet shooting and a new shooter.

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TheOldRedneck

· #15 · Jan 22, 2013

Gun weight has a huge effect on recoil. A Mossberg, 20 gauge pump will run close to what some full size H&R single barrels because of the amount of steel in the single barrel. Mossburg has several cheap 20 gauge pumps that come with recoil pads. Guns with choke tubes give the option of a full choke or improve cylinder without having to buy a gun or spare barrel. I ask what my friend paid this past fall, he bought it at Academy for $179 plus tax and the extra choke tube was under $20, did not remember exact cost of choke tube.

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ccviper

· #16 · Jan 22, 2013

I would also agree with a 20 ga. It doesn't have much more recoil than a 410, shells are cheaper, and it would be a better option for skeet or trap. If you are worried about recoil, a Limbsaver or such type recoil pad works wonders. You could also use it for hunting deer later and will give a better chance for squirrel hunting if wanted. You have to be a good shot on anything with a 410 while a 20 is a little more forgiving. You don't want your son to be struggling when trying to learn the sport

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texastaurusguy

· #17 · Jan 22, 2013

They make that Rossi with a 20 gauge barrel instead of a 410 barrel as well.

Divebum

· #18 · Jan 22, 2013 (Edited)

Let me take a little different tack, here. A .410 is pretty much a "professional's" gun. If you are going to introduce your son to skeet and trap, I'd go with a 20g. Both Wetherby and CZ make very nice and affordable youth shotguns. I have one of each for my shooting sports club. Both guns are reliable and manageable. Especially if you use low brass rounds.

I've found through experience that if you want a youth to stay with the sport, he or she needs to have as many "successes" as possible. A .410 in the right hands is a great gun for hunting. But I would not recommend it as a starter or as a gun for skeet or trap. The successes are few and far between.

Edited to add: If your intent is to minimize recoil, the semi-autos mentioned would be great. If recoil is not an issue, Remington also makes a great youth pump in the 870. Pumps are a little more brutal in the recoil area.

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