After all the back and forth between the moderators at the other site it can be know stated it will take a few months before the old haunt disappears for good. Seems the owner at the other place was willing to help us save it after all.It may still may not be recoverable.That was not the portent of the message and from garbled messages back and forth it seemed like the old site was going down much sooner. Like this place much better anyway for many reasons.Old registered long gone members, spam, and obnoxious posts that had nothing to do with our forum were making the situation unbearable. So it is good to move on and start over. Flyer, take a bow.Superb job on creating all this.