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Congrats. Enjoy your new firearm. I have one and has worked well with over 500 rounds. A bit picky on the ammo, and works good with the hotter rounds.

Trigger and takedown take a little getting used to.

Shoot it often and in good health.
 
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Congrats. Enjoy your new firearm. I have one and has worked well with over 500 rounds. A bit picky on the ammo, and works good with the hotter rounds.

Trigger and takedown take a little getting used to.

Shoot it often and in good health.
This will actually be my second one. My first is a SS Slide with a black frame. So I already know what to expect. Mine had been trouble free with any ammo including ARX. I probably have a couple thousand plus rounds through mine. I even have ran steel case ammo through it.

I think the only complication I had was sending it back for recall work, and it was fairly trouble free other than not having it for three weeks.

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Please post some pics along with a range report after you've received it and taken it out shooting.

I'm curious to hear how it performs, especially after reading so many mixed reviews, but haven't seen any new ones posted since the recall.

The Walther Forums makes it sound like the Walther equivalent of the Gen 1 Remington R51, but that isn't saying much seeing as they consider pretty much everything that Walther has turned out in the past 3 decades to be complete junk, and basically just use the forum to brag about their 70+ year old War-Crime *ahem* War-Time pistols which they seem to be convinced are among the best ever built in spite of the fact that most WWII Era Walther pistols were of notoriously poor quality due to being rushed out the factory.
 

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I know what you mean. I registered on their forum long ago and found it worse than AR15.com. Some over their are snobs. Some consider the PPK/S made here not to be a true Walther.

I will say it is fun getting them jacked up over Bersa vs PPK. Then tip them over the edge of the PPK vs Makarov.

My current CCP has been a good one and was fixed in the recall. I have to admit, I regret selling my P7 tears ago, but the CCP doesn't transfer heat like its metal frame did.

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Please post some pics along with a range report after you've received it and taken it out shooting.

I'm curious to hear how it performs, especially after reading so many mixed reviews, but haven't seen any new ones posted since the recall.

The Walther Forums makes it sound like the Walther equivalent of the Gen 1 Remington R51, but that isn't saying much seeing as they consider pretty much everything that Walther has turned out in the past 3 decades to be complete junk, and basically just use the forum to brag about their 70+ year old War-Crime *ahem* War-Time pistols which they seem to be convinced are among the best ever built in spite of the fact that most WWII Era Walther pistols were of notoriously poor quality due to being rushed out the factory.
 

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Pics! I 100 rounds through it by the time I had it one hour, fifteen minutes. It was 50 rounds of steel case Tula and a mix of Geco and Perfecta left over from a previous range trip. No failing to fire, no failures to eject, and no feeding issues.

What you get in the box is 2, 8 round magazines. The hex key wrenches, and torx driver for the sights. 2 additional front sights to adjust elevation, an improved take down tool that actually works. Also the standard cheap gun lock. The paperwork fits under the foam in the lid.

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Not much different than the one I have from 2014. It is a post recall model and has the same milled dot on the magazine well.


The take down tool is metal with a longer plastic handle. One of the issues has been the procedure for take down. With practice it becomes easy. However, the original tool was plastic and never worked for me. I had to do the small screw driver method. I didn't have the screw driver handy when I went to the range. I looked at the new tool and realized they had changed it a good bit. I was able to use the new tool fine.
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The one change that was noticeable was that the barrel is now stainless steel. My older model is blued steel. If I wear it a lot, small rust spots will appear. It had surprised me that they had done that when the slides are stainless. It sort of makes me feel cheated on the first model.:D The serial numbers are approximately 70,500 apart. So some revisions are bound to happen.

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Overall, my first impression is that Walther has done some revisions. I also found the trigger reset and wall are easier to feel than my first model, but the recall made them noticeable. If you ignore the take down process, there are a lot of pluses like the ergonomics. Small to large hands can get around the grip. The trigger is similar to a double action, but doesn't seem to affect the longer range accuracy. As for accuracy, the prevailing theory is that fixed barrel pistols are more accurate than short recoil pistols. My Makarovs have to have good ammo for them to shine in the accuracy department. The CCP is no different. Most ammo from Perfecta, Geco, PPU, Blazer, and PMC does very well. So far the only ammo ran through the new one has been a mix of Tula, Perfecta, and Geco. My older one has ran everything 9x19 that I've put in it. I've also noticed with novice shooters, the CCP does very well with. The slide is easier to pull back than anything else that is conventional blow back or recoil operated. The CCP is gas delayed blow back like the HK P7 and the Styer GB. Unlike them, it doesn't transfer the heat to the grip frame like the other two will after a lot of shooting. The frame will warm up, but I've never found it to get hot or uncomfortable to hold.

The aftermarket is starting to catch up. There are several sight options from some of the bigger players and holsters abound. When I acquired the first one, only Comptac made a hybrid. It was crap as the gun worked itself out the holster twice in one day. The shell wasn't conforming enough. Stacy Snow of SAS Custom holster made a kydex one for me that has served very well. It was the first CCP holster he made. You don't see them listed, but he does have a blue gun to make them and all it takes is an email. He does make PT111 & PT140 holsters for the original and G2 models.

As for the sights, they work and could use some improvements. The dots need filled in better. My first one I filled with phosphorescent paint. This one will get a set of TruGlo TFX pro orange. They were in stock and I ordered a set today. These are the same style I currently have on my PT-111 G2. Most of my defensive handguns either have the TFO or TFX sights. A friend in law enforcement turned me onto them. The glow nice in daylight and very well at night.

What someone can complain about is, yes it does have a manual safety. It appears small, but seems to be easy to disengage and re-engage. Also it is only 8+1. However, compared to the Glock 43, PF-9, PPS M1 & M2, PT709, and S&W Shield, I like the CCP better and I've shot all of these. Compare the CCP to the Colt Defender, and I think the CCP comes out ahead in accuracy and weight. The Defender comes out ahead in the recoil department due to it's weight. My little Iver Johnson Thrasher is a fun gun to shoot, it is now reliable and very accurate, but at 36 oz, it is a bit heavy vs. the CCP 22 oz for EDC.

I've heard about problems online, but I'm one of 4 people I know that actually has a CCP, and they seem to like theirs as well. I know it is blasphemy, but a friend's wife set her PT-111 aside for a CCP. In her case, during a defensive pistol class, on draw she always dead center on the first shot. With the PT-111 it was a vasectomy on the target.

Wednesday I'll be breaking it in at a local indoor range.

In the end, I think it is a nice option. I have a choice between the P320C, Glock 19, PPQ, PT-111 G2, and the CCP for CCW. With the exception of the PPQ each has a backup. The PT-111 G2 and CCP are what I do carry the most when dressed lightly. The CCP is a little more rounded on the edges than the rest.

All the polymer guns are my go to for EDC. They were all acquired in deals and low price with the exception of the Glock 19's. The 19's were acquired specifically as EDC many years ago. One of them has nearly 30,000 round through it. It has broken springs in its life and isn't Perfection, but works. The problem is that Glock is no longer setting the curve, and I'm always curious about the non Glocks out there. The little PT-111 G2 was a surprise and I like it way better than either G42 or G43. The CCP ended up being one of the ones that worked out as well.

If you get the opportunity, rent or try a CCP. You might like it. Walther's other offerings are worth looking at. The PK380, P99, PPK/S, PPS M1/M2, and the PPQ's are worth looking at. Out of that bunch, only the P99 and PPQ Classic/M1 share the same magazine. Yes, the CCP doesn't share a magazine with any other model.

The long standing joke about Walther is the only reason they make new models is to sell more magazines.:D

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Excellent evaluation, Maloy.

For a time I was considering the CCP and PPS M2 as a possible upgrade/replacement for my PPK/S-1, but then Walther quietly cancelled the .40 S&W variants and I lost interest.

Rumor has it that Walther is going to announce a new PPQ Compact at SHOT Show, which I might be interested in depending on what calibers it comes chambered in.
 

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I know the guys over at the Walther forum seem to be overly critical on the CCP. My 2014 model has never had a problem from ammo 90 to 147 grain. I've ran as much as 500 rounds between cleanings and never a problem. I also wondered how someone got burned from it heating up. I've five magazine, I've ran straight through. Never has it gotten hot. Warm yes, Hot NO. Run that many mags through a P7, and it gets very warm.

They also tout it as okay for novice shooters, but watch Hikok45 run one. As he said, he should hate it, but it hit where he wanted it to. Personally, I think it is a good enough option to buy a second one. I cleaned this one and put 100 rounds through it. It will get 400+ before the next cleaning, unless a problem develops.

One thing I forgot to mention, the slide can be racked with the safety on.

Well I'm out of here, time to make a run to check out the LGS's

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The first time I tried the CCP, it had a pretty gritty trigger. That was when it first came out. Recently dry fired another and I think they improved on it.
 
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