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My dr put me on a new med as my triglycerides are way up. The "generic" version cost me 48 bucks for a month? That is with my insurance. WTF! Really thinking I should just quit working and leach society. Everything is free then. Free food for the kids at school, food stamps, free cell phones, reduced utilities, WIC, and thanks to NObama FREE condoms :)
 
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My dr put me on a new med as my triglycerides are way up. The "generic" version cost me 48 bucks for a month? That is with my insurance. WTF! Really thinking I should just quit working and leach society. Everything is free then. Free food for the kids at school, food stamps, free cell phones, reduced utilities, WIC, and thanks to NObama FREE condoms :)
You might consider changing pharmacies as my wife takes 4 different med each day from thyroid to high blood pressure all generic. The cost $4 for each prescription per month. She buys for Walmart or CVS.
 
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I get mine from Walgreens.
 

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My triglycerides have run as high as 750 along with concurrent other bad readings. I tried lipitor which didn't work well on the Tri's then was on Antara for a spell. Antara works better, but was pretty pricey also. I changed to a generic called Gemfibrozil and the Doc added Lovaza which is a prescribed omega 3 (fish oil). It's a better program as the tri number is down to 249 at the last reading. Drawback is that I have to take it twice per day which is sometimes hard to remember. I've considered changing to a generic OTC fish oil from WalMart, but the hook is that the Lovaza is refined to assure that there is no mercury in it and tests show that it works better.
 

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Heck last year, I had one that would have cost me over $400 per month, thank god it also would have almost killed me! It was so potent they took me off of it in just over a week.
 

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My dr put me on a new med as my triglycerides are way up. The "generic" version cost me 48 bucks for a month? That is with my insurance. WTF! Really thinking I should just quit working and leach society. Everything is free then. Free food for the kids at school, food stamps, free cell phones, reduced utilities, WIC, and thanks to NObama FREE condoms :)
I thank you for working. We have way too many "leaches" sucking our society dry.
 

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I thank you for working. We have way too many "leaches" sucking our society dry.
I'm satisfied with my HMO and have been for 35 years. I do NOT, however, want any part of paying for those (almost 50%) who pay NO taxes.
 

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I dont think the healthcare systems in the USA or in Canada are perfect.
My girlfriend tells me the healthcare in the USA can be really expensive but you get good care.
Here in Canada it is cheap almost free for everyone. Meds, surgery anything it costs so little we dont even notice it. HOWEVER the quality of care here sucks especially in rural areas. Doctors are overbooked and not taking new patients, waiting lists for even the simplest thing sometimes takes up to a year or two.
The doctors dont put any effort into solving the issue... in fact the most common complaint here is that the doctor usually tells people things like... 'hmmm I just dont know what it is, what do you think ?' then offers them some antibiotics.
The doctors dont care because they dont make enough money to care. They get payed by the government and they are often forced to work a number of hours every week in the free clinics despite their level of training.
But we do get free (cheap) care as a right.
I think we need some sort of hybrid two tier system. It has been suggested we take a healthcare model here that allows the same basic care but for those that are working and want better care they can pay for it out of their own pockets.
I know it may not be perfect but I think it would solve many issues. The biggest issue they say is that none of the good doctors would want to work in the free clinics. Why work for less when you can work for more. I say make some hours in the clinics mandatory for each doctor, at least a few hours a week.
I also know some doctors would choose to work the free clinics anyway because not all doctors are in it to get rich... I like to believe there are some that really do want to help.
 

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My meds are pricey --$300-400 per month per med, because there are no generics for them. Stupid insurance!!!

The least the guv't could do is provide free Viagra for those that use it (I don't) to go w/ the free contraception...
 

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I never understand these arguments. Only a few decades ago if most of the people had these problems they would be DEAD. Here come people doing research, studies, testing, and they go through all kinds of schooling and training. All of that costs MONEY. So then we get the government involved and everyone is shocked that costs are going up as we are forced to cover more people. Everyone wants to make all these demands of modern medicine and care, but then no one wants to be stuck with the bill.
 

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I never understand these arguments. Only a few decades ago if most of the people had these problems they would be DEAD. Here come people doing research, studies, testing, and they go through all kinds of schooling and training. All of that costs MONEY. So then we get the government involved and everyone is shocked that costs are going up as we are forced to cover more people. Everyone wants to make all these demands of modern medicine and care, but then no one wants to be stuck with the bill.
That is a point. I guess how much is your health/life worth in a dollar value. lets say a person gets in an accident and the medical costs pretty much ruin that person for life or at best make life financially miserable in exchange for keeping the person alive. Sure they may be alive but what quality of life is it. At what price is the cure worse than the condition.
Another thought I have is about the cost of training... The knowledge isnt expensive some training equipment might be a bit pricey but thats because its a small market and somebody somewhere figures they can get rich.
Theres always somebody trying to get rich off your buck. I have no interest in getting stuck with a bill that comes down to lining somebody's greedy pockets. I mean lets face it... medical training is just school... its not magic or some arcane knowledge so why should it cost an arm and a leg to teach the doctors how to do their job.
 

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I never understand these arguments. Only a few decades ago if most of the people had these problems they would be DEAD. Here come people doing research, studies, testing, and they go through all kinds of schooling and training. All of that costs MONEY. So then we get the government involved and everyone is shocked that costs are going up as we are forced to cover more people. Everyone wants to make all these demands of modern medicine and care, but then no one wants to be stuck with the bill.
You could also make the point that the best health insurance is diet and exercise. O.K. sure there are lots of people that have conditions that are no fault of their own, but then again there are many people that don't practice a healthy lifestyle and complain about the cost.
 

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Why should law school be any different then?
EXACTLY. Law school is even more to my point. Generally speaking theres not so much new cutting edge techniques used in law school as there is in medical school. Many lawyers charge such high prices just because they can. Its mostly book learning if somebody can tell me where there is LEGITIMATE overhead cost in law school then I will admit I was wrong and lawyers dont overcharge clients.
Again in my opinion most people these days become doctors and lawyers to make money, and heres the thing... because they CAN make so much money charging high prices for their service the schools increase their price accordingly. If it was cheap and quick to learn a trade that makes one of the highest paying salary out there... everybody would be doing it.
One last point that comes to mind is... lets say it was you that just couldnt afford to be 'stuck with the bill' one way or another... does that mean you dont have the right to treatment ?
 

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My point was why should anything cost what it does. The answer I'm looking for is because people are willing to pay for it. If there is money to be made in something then someone will come along and try to offer it as a service or product for you to buy. If there is no money in it then it will never happen or it will fail if tried. But the minute someone starts forcing you to pay for something...
 

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My point was why should anything cost what it does. The answer I'm looking for is because people are willing to pay for it. If there is money to be made in something then someone will come along and try to offer it as a service or product for you to buy. If there is no money in it then it will never happen or it will fail if tried. But the minute someone starts forcing you to pay for something...
Hehe yeah I think thats what im trying to say as well. Im agreeing with you for the most part.
I still how ever dont think any system is perfect.
 

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I dont think the healthcare systems in the USA or in Canada are perfect.
My girlfriend tells me the healthcare in the USA can be really expensive but you get good care.
Here in Canada it is cheap almost free for everyone. Meds, surgery anything it costs so little we dont even notice it. HOWEVER the quality of care here sucks especially in rural areas. Doctors are overbooked and not taking new patients, waiting lists for even the simplest thing sometimes takes up to a year or two.
The doctors dont put any effort into solving the issue... in fact the most common complaint here is that the doctor usually tells people things like... 'hmmm I just dont know what it is, what do you think ?' then offers them some antibiotics.
The doctors dont care because they dont make enough money to care. They get payed by the government and they are often forced to work a number of hours every week in the free clinics despite their level of training.
But we do get free (cheap) care as a right.
I think we need some sort of hybrid two tier system. It has been suggested we take a healthcare model here that allows the same basic care but for those that are working and want better care they can pay for it out of their own pockets.
I know it may not be perfect but I think it would solve many issues. The biggest issue they say is that none of the good doctors would want to work in the free clinics. Why work for less when you can work for more. I say make some hours in the clinics mandatory for each doctor, at least a few hours a week.
I also know some doctors would choose to work the free clinics anyway because not all doctors are in it to get rich... I like to believe there are some that really do want to help.
I don't mean to thread-jack, but what you say is so sad and wrong on so many levels, and illustrates exactly why gubment should not be involved in the medical system. Without giving away too much, I used to work 'private security', especially for those types with 'barrels of money'. They could go anywhere, or have the finest equipment and people brought to them, but they came to the US for medical treatment. Afterward, then we'd fly around on chartered jets to various places to 'recuperate'. Yes, money can get buy access for some, but when gubment devalues it, then it is worthless for all.
 

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Talk to your doctor for perhaps cheaper meds, and go to different pharmacies. I get mine mail ordered for three months. That also reduces costs.
 
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