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I think I could have posted this is 4 or 5 different forums! Of course move if necessary.

What starts out as a good review of the TX22 goes bad while running some CCI Stinger ammo. I'm going to post just the link to the video instead of imbedding the video. The guys language goes downhill with the review after the ammo problems start. If the mods think the link is too much and remove it the YouTube channel is title Guns&Cars.

Ok so never had that happen before. I'm trying to NOT imbed the video but I can't make that happen! No matter what I tried it would still put the actual video in my post, instead of just the link.

Kind of ruins my post! :( What happens is the guy has a couple bad Stinger rounds. There must have been a squib load and he didn't check the gun and then shot a hot round. Not good! Fortunately is was .22. Anyway if you are interested the YouTube channel is Guns&Cars and the guy is doing a review of the TX22. Take a look.
 

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I would not shoot any Stingers in a pistol like that. Those are hot .22's, and the case length is longer than a standard or HV.
 

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I would not shoot any Stingers in a pistol like that. Those are hot .22's, and the case length is longer than a standard or HV.
I have never used any Stingers but I knew they were a hot round. The case is longer? How does that work? Isn't the chamber only so deep? Basically I understand about the "rimfire" aspect but do they head space off the rim leaving chamber space that this longer case fits into? There's a lot I don't know about how .22 works!
 

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Yep he had a squib, he should have verified the round wasn't stuck in the barrel, instead of talking about how he had previous rounds that acted like low power. Hard to think when showing off for the camera.
 

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The case of a Stinger is not longer. It is not a magnum round, which is what it would be if it had a longer case.
 

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The case of a Stinger is not longer. It is not a magnum round, which is what it would be if it had a longer case.

You are mistaken. The CCI stinger case is longer than the standard 22 long rifle. To make up for the extra length of the case they use a shorter 32 grain bullet that maintains the standard length of a .22lr cartridge. The reason the Stinger case is longer is to hold more powder. The extra powder and the 32 grain bullet combine to give the round a velocity of 1640 FPS.

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No good reason to shoot hyper velocity ammo in the TX.

It functions fine on quality standard velocity ammo, which also gives better accuracy and less stress on the gun.

Running Stingers is asking for trouble.
 

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You are mistaken. The CCI stinger case is longer than the standard 22 long rifle. To make up for the extra length of the case they use a shorter 32 grain bullet that maintains the standard length of a .22lr cartridge. The reason the Stinger case is longer is to hold more powder. The extra powder and the 32 grain bullet combine to give the round a velocity of 1640 FPS.
If Stingers had cases longer than .22lr spec, they wouldn't eject properly. The cases aren't elongated, they are in spec. Some other manufacturers have .22lr with shortened cases so as to fit larger 40-60gr bullets. So there are different sized cases, but it's due to other shortening theirs, not CCI elongating the Stinger's.
 

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Saw that video a while ago - he actually had two squibs. One earlier on then that last one that he figured out. The earlier one may have made it most of the way out of the barrel and the following round pushed it out.
What I did not appreciate was his follow-up video where he states that although it was a squib in his first video....Taurus has bad barrels
 
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If Stingers had cases longer than .22lr spec, they wouldn't eject properly. The cases aren't elongated, they are in spec. Some other manufacturers have .22lr with shortened cases so as to fit larger 40-60gr bullets. So there are different sized cases, but it's due to other shortening theirs, not CCI elongating the Stinger's.

OK, let me go over this again. You are still mistaken CCI stingers have a longer case then standard 22 long rifle. If you had any experience shooting the stingers you would have noticed that the case is longer than any other 22 long rifle case. Sometimes it pays to check with Google before you argue a point.

Here is a comparison picture of a standard round with 2 other long rifle standard cases. I am also including a quote that directly addresses the length of the stinger round. Finally, I am including a link were you can go and read about it yourself. If you still insist that they are not longer I would suggest you call CCI customer service and they will explain it to you.
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"Using the bullet from a .22 Long—a 32-grain plated hollowpoint—and a longer case for greater powder capacity while still maintaining the same overall length as the standard .22 LR cartridge, the Stinger obtains a high muzzle velocity (1,640 fps) for a flat trajectory."

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https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2016/4/17/top-5-22-long-rifle-loads/

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I have never used any Stingers but I knew they were a hot round. The case is longer? How does that work? Isn't the chamber only so deep? Basically I understand about the "rimfire" aspect but do they head space off the rim leaving chamber space that this longer case fits into? There's a lot I don't know about how .22 works!

From what I have observed the OAL of the round is about the same as other 22 LR, and as the 22 LR head spaces on the rim not the case neck I think that eliminates the problem?
again my take on it.
I have known for decades that the stinger case is longer and surprisingly when I mention it to many gun freaks they argue that it can't be, until we compare the cases.
OPPS-- I see bang bang has already addressed this!
 
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The case of a Stinger is not longer. It is not a magnum round, which is what it would be if it had a longer case.
ahh- actually magnum, much like plus p is a pressure/ performance rating, not a case size.
just saying.
 
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I can see the slightly longer Stinger case possibly causing ejection problems in an ejection port with very tight tolerances.

However many of today's shooters don't shoot the quantity of rimfire ammo (we used to shoot when 500 rd bricks were $7) in the variety of different platforms to realize it is NOT 100% reliable due to it's method of priming.

You'll get better results with much more expensive "Olympic Target Quality" .22 from Eley et al.

 

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OK, let me go over this again. You are still mistaken CCI stingers have a longer case then standard 22 long rifle. If you had any experience shooting the stingers you would have noticed that the case is longer than any other 22 long rifle case. Sometimes it pays to check with Google before you argue a point.

Here is a comparison picture of a standard round with 2 other long rifle standard cases. I am also including a quote that directly addresses the length of the stinger round. Finally, I am including a link were you can go and read about it yourself. If you still insist that they are not longer I would suggest you call CCI customer service and they will explain it to you.
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"Using the bullet from a .22 Long—a 32-grain plated hollowpoint—and a longer case for greater powder capacity while still maintaining the same overall length as the standard .22 LR cartridge, the Stinger obtains a high muzzle velocity (1,640 fps) for a flat trajectory."

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https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2016/4/17/top-5-22-long-rifle-loads/

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Now go back and re-read what I wrote Don.

The Stinger case is within .22lr spec. Again, if it wasn't, it wouldn't be able to eject. Other manufacturers, like the ones you have a pic of, have SHORTENED their 22lr casing in order to accommodate a large bullet. You are getting it backwards. The Stinger is not an elongated case, the others are shortened.
 

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Now go back and re-read what I wrote Don.

The Stinger case is within .22lr spec. Again, if it wasn't, it wouldn't be able to eject. Other manufacturers, like the ones you have a pic of, have SHORTENED their 22lr casing in order to accommodate a large bullet. You are getting it backwards. The Stinger is not an elongated case, the others are shortened.

Did you not read the quote I put up in my last post? Did you go to the link I included and read about the stinger? Is the author of that article wrong about the length of the stinger case because you think he is wrong?

Would I be wasting my time by pulling up and linking to other articles concerning this question because you think they are all wrong? If so please tell me now and save me some time.

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I can see the slightly longer Stinger case possibly causing ejection problems in an ejection port with very tight tolerances.

However many of today's shooters don't shoot the quantity of rimfire ammo (we used to shoot when 500 rd bricks were $7) in the variety of different platforms to realize it is NOT 100% reliable due to it's method of priming.

You'll get better results with much more expensive "Olympic Target Quality" .22 from Eley et al.

I've fired Eley in mine, and had some cycling issues - though the Eley was pretty old and was showing some white corrosion on the lead bullet (first time I'd seen corrosion on a bullet). The lube had broken down apparently.

CCI Standard Velocity will do everything that Eley will do in a pistol of this type. It's the best mid-range ammo available IMO. Very few issues with quality control and the accuracy is surprisingly good for non-match round.
 

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Agree with Don's Stinger and sketch's comments. We used very heavy and "overbuilt" 22 LR rifles on the rifle team in both high school and in college. But we used "Olympic" grade Remington ammo. You know it when you feel it as it is greasy as hell. But accurate as hell as well. We were given 3 shots to warm up our barrels and two more to zero the rifle for competition. And it was bolt action single shot so you had to finger load each round as you shot it. I personally don't shoot stingers - no need and I got "shot out" on 22 in my youth. And, last time I bought 22 in volume was a brick of 550 rounds for $5.
 
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