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Hi all,

I am somewhat confused regarding the use of + P ammo in my Rossi 85104. In all the advertisement for this revolver, Rossi states that their revolvers will fire the +P cartridges for the life of the gun. However, in the manual that comes with and covers all their revolvers it states on page 11 " Warning: Even if your Rossi firearm is rated for Plus P ammunition, such ammunition generates pressures significantly in excess of the pressures associated with standard ammunition. Such pressures may affect the useful life of the firearm or exceed the margin of safety built into many firearms. Unless you need +P ammunition, do not use it, particularlly for practice."

So what is the verdict. I have some 125 grn, golden saber +p hp that I am planning to use as my SD ammo. I would also like to shoot it enough to know how to zero my revolver for this load. But now, this seamingly contradictory info has me confused.

What then are some good non +P sd ammo? Can I not carry this until the other non +p ammo is available. I can not find any, ........... Suggestions would be appreciated.
 

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Its fine, just don't shoot +P exclusively. Get your pistol dialed in with your carry ammo and then look for practice ammo that hits close to the same point of aim without being +P
 

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jimb1972 took the words right out of my mouth. I wouldn't shoot +P ammunition through
it on a regular basis, like trips to the range for example. Use the +P for self defense and
regular loads for target practice and plinking. All of my carry guns are loaded with +P
ammunition whenever I am carrying.
 

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Hi all,

I am somewhat confused regarding the use of + P ammo in my Rossi 85104. In all the advertisement for this revolver, Rossi states that their revolvers will fire the +P cartridges for the life of the gun....Suggestions would be appreciated.
It today's litigious society (folks who sue anyone for anything) no company would publicly make a statement like that about their product if it were not true.

That aside, today's +P is more of a marketing ploy to sell more ammo than a real attempt at the "magic bullet" trophy.

I would not worry a bit about shooting it...:r_c:
 

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well of course my first questions to people that inquire about Plus p anything is "What makes you think that you need plus p ammo?" and then usually the suggestion that if you wanted 357 magnum power then possibly a 357 magnum handgun would have been a better choice.
But to get to your question: its simple --a matter of wear on both the gun and you!
A car may have a 25,000 mile warranty but if you take it to the drag strip every weekend and put 20,000 of those miles running the devil out of it then its going to have a lot more wear and less longivity than if you let granny drive it to church just on Sunday for 20,000 miles.
Now if you had a 357 magnum pistol then you could shoot 357 mags, or target shoot with 38 Spl, or go inbetween and use 38 Plus P Spl without to much concern with added wear as the weapon is much heavier built to take the abuse.
 

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Well, to answer your question. I don't really feel I need +p. However like I said I can not find any non plus p anywhere. What I bought is ALL that is available locally. Thats why I ask if what I have now, would be ok to use until I could find non plus p, and why I ask for suggestions.
 

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also, make sure your barrel is rated for +p ammo. not all are safe to shot this type, be safe.
 

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Until you can get some standard power ammo in your caliber it is unlikely you will do any harm to your pistol shooting the +P stuff at the range. I would not give any handgun a steady diet of high priced ammo just to practice shoot paper zombies. For me that would be a waste of $$$, whether factory made or my own reloads.
 
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There are variations in P and +P. So you wanna test your P and you're not a Urologist then you should go to 38 Special Ballistics Chart | Ballistics 101 and compare the various loads to see what makes the most sense for you to test.

Out of a snubby the Speer Gold Dot 135 has a good reputation. As you can see there are a lot of choices.

Check with the manual and see if they give you any guidance on the velocity and weight of the cartridge they tested the gun with.
 
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