I to looked at a couple of charter arms big bore stainless revolvers and was impressed with the fit and finish. I have not handled a Taurus revolver, but I am considering a smaller caliber for a CC gun. Best of luck on your choice.
The truth about Taurus Quality
I read a good post today, which I both agreed with, and thought was fair. I will restate it using my own words and experiences. Here goes:
I have owned many Taurus guns, all revolvers in my case. Some of the ones I have gotten rid of, I wished I still had. I've only had problems with one. Say one out of five. (1\5). Four out of five have been amazing. (4\5). So if you buy a Taurus, there's a 20% chance you will be dealing with Taurus customer service, judging from my sampling.
Customer Service is slow. I believe this is because they are busy. The nice lady at FedEx, had the Taurus address memorized. YIKES! Mine has been there 8 weeks, and they basically tell me nothing but, "one day". They are not rude, but neither are they apologetic for their product or the wait. Mine still shows just " received after 8 weeks. However I understand from many to just hang in there, they will eventually get it fixed, and they get it right. At that point, I'll have a good gun.
Triggers and lockups, (my revolvers). In my history, Taurus feels different than a S&W, just as S&W feels different from Ruger. I've got no issues with the design of any of these fire arms.
Will I buy another Taurus? That's a good question. I'm a financially handicapped, person of the Tennessee hills, so the Taurus value proposition is attractive to me. Honestly, I'm shopping for a .44 at the moment. I can't afford the S&W, and I don't care for the feel to my hands of the Redhawk. Recently, I've been extremely impressed with Charter Arms, and may intact end up with a .44-spcl (Bulldog). I just wish CA made a heavier Magnum. This leaves me taking a gambling on a M44 or Tracker. On which, I'll probably roll the dice. 80\20 isn't bad for a $400 savings. All I'm gambling is time if I get a lemon. I have faith that Taurus would eventually fix it.
I have owned many Taurus guns, all revolvers in my case. Some of the ones I have gotten rid of, I wished I still had. I've only had problems with one. Say one out of five. (1\5). Four out of five have been amazing. (4\5). So if you buy a Taurus, there's a 20% chance you will be dealing with Taurus customer service, judging from my sampling.
Customer Service is slow. I believe this is because they are busy. The nice lady at FedEx, had the Taurus address memorized. YIKES! Mine has been there 8 weeks, and they basically tell me nothing but, "one day". They are not rude, but neither are they apologetic for their product or the wait. Mine still shows just " received after 8 weeks. However I understand from many to just hang in there, they will eventually get it fixed, and they get it right. At that point, I'll have a good gun.
Triggers and lockups, (my revolvers). In my history, Taurus feels different than a S&W, just as S&W feels different from Ruger. I've got no issues with the design of any of these fire arms.
Will I buy another Taurus? That's a good question. I'm a financially handicapped, person of the Tennessee hills, so the Taurus value proposition is attractive to me. Honestly, I'm shopping for a .44 at the moment. I can't afford the S&W, and I don't care for the feel to my hands of the Redhawk. Recently, I've been extremely impressed with Charter Arms, and may intact end up with a .44-spcl (Bulldog). I just wish CA made a heavier Magnum. This leaves me taking a gambling on a M44 or Tracker. On which, I'll probably roll the dice. 80\20 isn't bad for a $400 savings. All I'm gambling is time if I get a lemon. I have faith that Taurus would eventually fix it.
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I really want a Mag, but can't tell you exactly why. As long as I go with a Magnum, it'll be Taurus, as Charter doesn't make one. That being said, To be completely honest, it'll likely NEVER see a magnum round. In 2017, I purchased a new Charter Arms, Police-38 Six shot snub and I'm exceedingly impressed with it. I couldn't be more happy. My wife has an 85UL, which had previously been my favorite little snub. I went with the CA, because I liked the Colt Cobra, but couldn't at this time afford one. Plus the CA fit my hands like a glove. I'm so impressed that honestly, I am considering the Bulldog for my 4" .44 along side the Taurus. Then the irrational side kicks in. I am really liking that M44. I mean really liking it. I can't justify the weight, extra cash, and I have a Taurus in the shop. But I really like that Taurus M44-4" stainless, and hey it IS a Magnum.I to looked at a couple of charter arms big bore stainless revolvers and was impressed...........Best of luck on your choice.
I have one Taurus revolver that doesn't work, a two inch model 327, $218 OTD. It was my first experiment in revolver smithing. It did not go well.:-[ So it's my fault, not theirs.I read a good post today, which I both agreed with, and thought was fair. I will restate it using my own words and experiences. Here goes:
I have owned many Taurus guns, all revolvers in my case. Some of the ones I have gotten rid of, I wished I still had. I've only had problems with one. ...
One thing I learned is that the Taurus Lifetime Warranty is a double-edged sword. Shipping a weapon back at your own expense can amount to a significant part of the purchase price of a bargain gun. Taurus won't sell certain "critical parts" to customers, because they don't want us doing detailed disassembly. Gunsmiths will tell you that they won't work on Taurus guns because they're junk, but really, they just can't get parts. I'd prefer that Taurus would sell me critical parts and void my warranty, but they won't.
Have you shot much .44 Magnum? Back in the day, when Dirty Harry was prowling the streets of San Francisco (well...the movie theaters) the S&W Model 29 was scarce and expensive. About five years later the novelty had worn off and I often saw many ads for Model 29's that went something like..
"For Sale: S&W Model 29. Less than 20 rounds fired". My friends and I called these "Reality Guns". The truth is, few people shoot much volume in .44 Magnum. There are those that do, but between the punishing recoil and the expense (even if you do reload) they end up shooting .44 Specials anyway. Even Harry Callahan did.
1.08 in the video....
"For Sale: S&W Model 29. Less than 20 rounds fired". My friends and I called these "Reality Guns". The truth is, few people shoot much volume in .44 Magnum. There are those that do, but between the punishing recoil and the expense (even if you do reload) they end up shooting .44 Specials anyway. Even Harry Callahan did.
1.08 in the video....
Yea, I paid almost $90 bucks to FedEx my 82 back, still cheaper than a S&W Mod 10 or 15. It does make that Charter Bulldog sound good though.I have one Taurus revolver that doesn't work, a two inch model 327, $218 OTD. It was my first experiment in revolver smithing. It did not go well.:-[ So it's my fault, not theirs.
One thing I learned is that the Taurus Lifetime Warranty is a double-edged sword. Shipping a weapon back at your own expense can amount to a significant part of the purchase price of a bargain gun. Taurus won't sell certain "critical parts" to customers, because they don't want us doing detailed disassembly. Gunsmiths will tell you that they won't work on Taurus guns because they're junk, but really, they just can't get parts. I'd prefer that Taurus would sell me critical parts and void my warranty, but they won't.
Shipped a SAR B6P to EAA in Cocoa, FL, for $54 using ShipMyGun,Com. Still pricey, but better.Yea, I paid almost $90 bucks to FedEx my 82 back, still cheaper than a S&W Mod 10 or 15. It does make that Charter Bulldog sound good though.
I've shot 44's (Ruger Super Redhawk) it belonged to a range buddy of mine. I've never owned a 44. I do reload, and I'm sure I'll reload special (.44).
I just disconnected with Fran at Taurus. Fran is nice. My six weeks became 8 weeks, and now its 12 weeks. Fine. I really don't need the magnum anyway, and the Charter Arms is lighter. I will buy the Charter Arms 44-Bulldog-4". I like my CA .38. Oh well. I'll also shop for a used S&W M29.
i had a charter arm mag pug 357 magnum a few years ago, had some bad ammo to bust the cylinder. sent it in to charter, they paid for shipping and had a brand new gun back in 10 days. so charter has great customer service and i would choose them over taurus because of this.I just disconnected with Fran at Taurus. Fran is nice. My six weeks became 8 weeks, and now its 12 weeks. Fine. I really don't need the magnum anyway, and the Charter Arms is lighter. I will buy the Charter Arms 44-Bulldog-4". I like my CA .38. Oh well. I'll also shop for a used S&W M29.
Thanks OF. I have a CA Undercover Police, (6-shot Undercover on a Bulldog frame) and love mine. Its has a tighter lock up than my 85 or 82. Plus I like the breakdown on the CA's. I'll buy a 4" .44 Bulldog, if I can't find a reasonable used 4" S&W-29. Which means I'll buy the Bulldog.
Great info on the Charter Arms revolvers, I have not made up my mind, (tauru or CA) but reading about real world experiences is way better than relying on reviews alone.
Buy the CA 44spl. I have a Redhawk 44mag and 41mag blackhawks that are fun but punishingly expensive to shoot. Had 44spl ca that was stolen. Awesome gun very accurate and pleasing to shoot as well as very easy to carry. Looked hard at them before I got the 709 slim. Too good a deal on the 709 and I am very pleased with it so far.
Actually, I would like to have one of Charter's 9mm Luger or .40 S&W offerings. At least that way, I would not have to "ammo up".
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