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I've been thinking about the Taurus Spectrum a lot lately ever since I got my new Ruger LCP. I keep seeing it pop up everywhere, reminding me of how hyped I was for the pistol, how much I wanted one, and how disappointing it was when it was delayed for the better part of a year, only to be released with such a fatal flaw.

On paper the Taurus Spectrum had all the makings of a runaway success, boasting features which none of the competition had at the time, and many still don't. Simple takedown with no tools required, a manual safety which was neither intrusive nor in the way that could just as easily be ignored, unrivalled ergonomics, a durable/corrosion-resistant finish, and last but certainly not least, second strike capabilities via a true double-action-only trigger.
The Taurus Spectrum could have taken the market completely by storm, setting a precedent for all new .380 Pocket Pistols to come, and very likely would have received a scaled up 9mm version by now.

The question is, what went wrong? In my opinion, what went wrong was a rush to meet the market which wasn't even necessary. The Taurus TCP-738 was already well regarded and was widely regarded as a superior Pocket Pistol compared to the Ruger LCP. Sure, Ruger and Smith & Wesson had released new .380 Pocket Pistols of their own in the form of the LCP II and M&P 380, but the TCP-738 seemed to still be selling due to its lower price point.
Taurus' first mistake was announcing the Spectrum before they had a working prototype. I know that such has become rather par for the course these days, but you'd think that marketing analysts would have discovered by now that hype can be a double-edged sword which is just as likely to cut the one who wields it should they fail to capitalize on it by releasing at its peak. Taurus' announced it too quickly, showed off everything at once, then was left with nothing left to show to maintain hype once it was delayed, causing it to slowly trickle away as prospective buyers sought alternatives.
If that wasn't enough, it would appear that the time period for which the Spectrum was delayed was insufficient to address the problem, nor would it appear that they tested it thoroughly prior to release given just how quickly it was discovered to have issues with light primer strikes.

Now the question remains, will it ever be made right? As near as I can figure, the issue of light primer strikes either still plagues the pistol or there are still so many on the market with the issue which haven't been fixed because Taurus never issued a recall. Sure, folks seem to have discovered a workaround in the form of careful ammo selection with softer primers that require less oomph to ignite, but the issue still appears to be far to rampant to write off as mere ammo sensitivity. I know that Taurus USA is still in the process of relocation from their factory in Miami Florida to Georgia, and that the Spectrum has to be manufactured domestically thanks to the infamous Gun Control Act of 1968 rendering it ineligible for import, but there have been many instances of import-banned firearms getting around this issue by having certain parts manufactured abroad then merely being finished/assembled domestically. Case in point, the new Walther PPK(/S) production out of Fort Smith Arkansas is only partially made in the USA, while the slide is made in Ulm Germany, so why couldn't the slide assembly be manufactured in Brazil?
However, that begs the question of whether Spectrums produced in Brazil (assuming they're even produced/sold in Brazil to begin with) are any more reliable than those produced here in the USA?

Anyway, I hope that this thread won't offend anyone who currently owns a Spectrum or carries one for self-defense. I honestly still love the Spectrum, hence why I have been thinking of it in the first place prior to purchasing an alternative, because I regret that I had to seek an alternative in the first place.
In fact, I would love to hear from those of you who have had success with more recently manufactured Spectrums or have otherwise had their older Spectrums fixed by Taurus. So if your Spectrum has proven to be reliable and you feel that the issues with the Spectrum are being corrected, then please post about it below.
 

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Not offended. Bought a Spectrum early on (Feb 12, 2018 ) and have fired over a thousand rounds through it. Only had one fail to eject completely. We've used Federal, Remington, Hornaday, Sellior & Bellot, Fiocchi and Winchester ammo... all brass.
 

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Tuco, you saw the two large pachyderms in the room.

You are correct about the extended period between hype and receipt of product being a major problem. If only Taurus had had product out when the sharks were circling in their frenzy, they may have had more customers.

Then comes the light primer strike issue, and now you have an issue that puts Taurus Customer Service front and center. How are they handling the situation? Recall? Anything at all?

Sadly, it is what it is. Taurus dropped the ball on this firearm, and continues to drop the ball. It could have been a savior in their future, but instead it is not.

I have said this before, and I will say it again: It is a sorry state of affairs at Taurus.
 

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Mine works fine however still carry my TCP more, reason I suspect the bad press for the Spectrum. My opinion on Taurus is they produce far too many models, almost like women clothing world each year change never really working out the bugs in older models. May be a poor comparison but hopefully makes the point.
 

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I on the other hand have had zero problems with the Wife's Spectrum...................
Runs great, eats what it is feed and is darn accurate for what it is!
I don't know if it is luck, or the fact I go through a gun as soon as it is purchased and do what I do too them,
but I have never had an issue with ANY of my Taurus'es, all run absolutely fantastic and I am completely happy with them................
Wish I had an answer for folks who have had an issue, and I do hope Taurus gets things worked out, but I will continue to
buy their firearms when I find another one I want.:)
 

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I had some problems with my Spectrum, sent it in twice for repair. While it was fixed the last time, they accomplished the fix by seriously over springing the pistol. If over springing is even a word. The recoil spring they installed was too long and impossible to reinstall. The extractor spring practically had the extractor hanging outside of the frame. Locking blocks, breech components were replaced both times it was in for repair. After the last fixes, it ran great and shot well. But... I agree with the well thought out missive above, Taurus had a chance to take the gun community in a different direction, and they blew it. My hopes are they will take the Pittman trigger system and use it for all future new models. That one step will bring lots of business to Taurus, as the trigger in the tx22 is one of the best triggers I have used.
 

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Thanks everyone for all of your posts and for being so civil. It never ceases to amaze me just how relaxed/friendly this forum is compared to others, and believe me when I say that I am not one to toss around praise for the sake of approval.

Honestly, I considered not posting this thread multiple times as I was writing it because I'm used to other forums in which you absolutely cannot post threads criticizing anything (unless it's a forum in which the popular opinion is negative, that is) even if it is constructive criticism coming from a disappointed fan. There are also a lot of forums in which questions are basically unpermitted, ergo posting a thread like this would be criticized since I don't actually own a Spectrum myself, even though part of the reason why I posted it was to learn if perhaps things had improved behind the scenes.

It really is a shame just how poorly the situation with the Spectrum has been handled. I can understand why Taurus wouldn't want to issue yet another recall so soon given the obvious negative publicity which would result from it, but it would look much better than doing nothing at all and appearing negligent as a result.
I really hope that Taurus can turn things around, but when it comes to issues being ignored or otherwise left unacknowledged like this, it looks less than encouraging.
 

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I'm patiently waiting also and still have hope Taurus will refine the Spectrum, but with them selling in the sub-$160 range, I'm not so sure it's ever going to happen. I waited on the S&W Bodyguard and Beretta Pico and they both have been ultra reliable through countless rounds. Best part about waiting is that the street price of both was well under half the cost they were just a year earlier.
 

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My PT-738 TCP started having FTE problems almost a year ago. Anticipating a long repair cycle for the 738, I bought a Ruger LCP-II.
The LCP-II is VERY similar to the 738, but more reliable. A great pocket gun!
After four months Taurus said they couldn't repair my 738, and offered me a Spectrum as a replacement. I am glad that some Spectrums are good, and the owners like them a lot; but there were too many complaints on this forum from owners that didn't like them. I asked if I could get a G2C instead, and Taurus approved.
I am very happy with my G2C!
 

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IMHO- Taurus makes good products. When management aka-marketing- doesn't interfere with the engineers. if you tell marketing about any feature or future product- they head out to sell it- sight unseen, untested, and unproofed or unproven. Saw that at IBM for years. I have little respect for Taurus management. The fiasco over the Millennium line was embarrassing.
 

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I don't see the reason to replace the TCP other than it's an old design. I'm hard pressed to think the cost of parts/assembly/testing is that much less on the Spectrum to over come the cost of new "Stuff" to make it. I'm thinking this was not the time to move away from gun-lifetime to one year. The way management is running the company it just looks like AST Computers all over again.

Sad they seem to not be able to find a niche and address the quality problems. Lots of other folks have quality issues but not the volume that Taurus seems to have had over the past seven or so years.

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The Spectrum I had never gave me any issues with its performance. It ran great and never gave me any problems. But the trigger on mine was the absolute worst trigger I have ever pulled. Very heavy and gritty. Felt like I was dragging it a mile through #2 gravel. I know its not a target pistol but I could not get it to clean up for anything. Maybe my TCP trigger has me spoiled but it stayed and the Spectrum was sold off
 

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Just recently ( on Facebook I keep track of Taurus Armas) it was alluded to that new Taurus designs for pistols were going to be released and that Taurus was trying to refresh things. One of the gun magazine/writer gurus let that slip also, but claimed he was being held to secrecy. He got to handle and shoot prototypes. When this unveiling was to take place was foggy at best.

Taurus is still partially still in the moving from Miami to Georgia. Until Taurus USA gets totally settled in it's new domicile things will probably stay foggy.


That said I still have and use my 2 TCPs (model 732) as part of the CCW rotation and will continue to do so.

The Spectrum seems to be a decent type, but time will tell. It might be that the Spectrum could be replace itself. One just has to wait and see.
 

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I'm currently considering one, since 160 bucks will get it and a box of ammo out the door...Can't have too many.

I've been perfectly happy with my Spectrum (which I'm guessing was in a early batch released as I received in February 2018, soon after it became available). I've been perfectly happy to the point of contemplating purchasing another. However, I don't really need another...I just want another...


Does getting a great one initially increase my chances of getting a not-so-good one? Hmmm...
 

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I'm glad to hear that yours has been trouble-free. If you want, you can check the date of manufacture on Taurus' website.

By the way, if you want another, then now would be a good time to get one seeing as they're currently going for $139 on Bud's.
 

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My sister likes hers. She did have issues with FTF while i was standing next to her. I do not think it was limp wrist. I need to get her back to the range with it. I shot two mags and it ran for me. I cleaned the little gun before our range time as we picked it up NIB at a gun show on the way to the indoor range. I know firearms. I put a trigger spring in a Beretta 84. Putting the spring back on the op rod without boogering it up or shooting it across the room was just as hard. Needing a gun smith to field strip is a little much. A captured spring rod would go a long way here. The long travel and total reset trigger broke clean a i hit where i pointed the dam thing so... It beats a lot more that's out there. I don't find anything wrong with it as much as not much right with it.
It's a striker fire. That's just not right.
Long travel, total reset trigger. That's just not right.
A pain to field strip. That's not right.
To small to grip, hang on to or recoil causing FTF, light strikes … not sure but it is not running 100%.
Not much you can do about being a strike fire. It is what it is.... i don't carry striker fires unless i'm underwater or in a sleeping bag.
Short travel, short reset trigger striker fire? That's an ER visit or a trip to the morgue.
I need to get my nephew to make a captured guide rod for this little gun and make a buck.
My sister likes it and it fits her needs. She is a high school ROTC TRI State Rifle Champion and proficient with firearms. She has a pocket holster and confidence with it.
I would carry this gun with confidence as well. Not my choice of guns but your not getting over me without springing a leak.
 

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My two cents. I'm new on this forum and new to Taurus. I typically prefer an FN, Glock,CZ, Walther or Sig Sauer to keep myself and my loved ones safe but when I spotted a Spectrum for $140 online, I decided to give Taurus a try.

I may take delivery today as its on the UPS truck headed to my FFL.

Taurus quality seems to be very much hit and miss, you either get a very reliable firearm or too Often, one that needs much remedial work. And Taurus customer service seems horrible by many accounts.

I'm hoping for a reliable pocket.380 but if such is not the case, at only $140, I can get what I paid back or most of it anyway.

As a side note, I have two SCCY pistols, my CPX-2 has been reliable since day one but my CPX-3 had a mag issue right out of the box. SCCY replaced the whole gun & mags within a week, now that's what I call good customer service.

I'll follow up with a range report on my experiences with the Spectrum
 

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Never shot one or owned one, but never really got the reason Taurus actually came out with the Spectrum. The TCP738 was actually one of the most popular and maintenance free firearm they made......I owned one (wife wanted it, but never could rack it) and I did not like the feel of it in my hands.
 
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