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I got a call from the Pawnshop last week that they had a gun for me to take a look at - they occasionally have me look at guns that are having issues of some sort or other (I'm no gunsmith and they know it) since I fiddle around a lot and am pretty good at figuring gun-things out.

They presented me with a Desert Eagle 1911C. Hammer would not stay cocked, the thumb safety would not engage even if you held the hammer back, and naturally the trigger would not actuate. They asked if I could check the damage and fix it if possible. I told them that fixing it was no issue, worst case, it's a 1911 - all the internals are relatively inexpensive and readily available.

Got it home, ad began a general disassembly. When I removed the thumb safety and beaver tail, the sear and disconnector dropped right out...I think I found the problem :D.

After inserting the sear and disconnector correctly and putting the pin through them, as it should be, the gun works fine...no surprise there.

Now, this sort of thing could not just happen, so I'm guessing that somebody took the thing apart, messed up when they reassembled it, and then couldn't figure out what the issue was...??? I posit that such a person should probably not own a 1911...or anything more complicated than a slingshot, or maybe a Glock...

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eye dunt no why they use them silly pins to hold stuff in place when Super Glue is so cheap????
 

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I mean, this is a $700+ gun. I know the Pawnshop didn't give the guy anywhere near that for it, especially in a non-functional state (and the guy telling them that all he did was put those funky clam shell grips on it that include a polymer rail addition, and that right after that it magically stopped working).

If they gave him $200 for it I'd be surprised, and a bit shocked!

I've been there when they buy guns from people - I watched an M&P Shield come in and they gave the guy $100. Turned around and sold the thing for $400 a week later.
 

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I like a success story. Congrats all around.

My LGS had a problem child that wouldn't feed ammo. After bringing it home, I found that a piece of punctured primer jammed in with the firing pin, causing it to protrude.

A thorough cleaning and this nice little Mini is back in service.

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I suppose a photo is in order from my little adventure as well ;)

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Notice, the hammer stays cocked now :p

**I also replaced those gawdawful grips with some plastic ones I had lying around, just for the aesthetics of it...
 

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so, you told them you found out the parts it needed were not that expensive, maybe $200 but there were a lot of hours of labor involved. But you would buy it from them at cost and take it as a "project " gun?
It's happened before - that's kind of how I came to my AK - a WASR 10 single-stack that someone had begun the conversion to allow double stack mags but hadn't gotten it done - mags wouldn't lock in place but were the devil to get back out. Several hours of dremeling, filing, and testing before I got it to work well, then they let me have it for a steal...and a 12ga pump gun too, for that matter...but I did put in quite a bit of time into each and they treated me very fairly, so I tend to do the same :cool:
 

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A good friend owns a pawn and gun shop. He often buys project guns for me cheap. Some I buy and keep, some I fix and give back. He knows the things I'm interested in like exposed hammer doubles, old singleshots, blackpowder guns etc and often finds at extremely good prices because most places here are not interested in the old stuff. It is nice to have a friend in the business.
 

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I went through sort of the same stuff with my PT1911. Instead of being the better gun surgeon, tho, I mucked mine up. I bought an aftermarket Right thumb safety and wanted simply to replace the stock ambi safety and it was listed as a “drop in” part.

Long story short, it took 2 days of intense YouTube study, 2 days of filing internal points, a good day of isolated dremelling of parts, etc for me to get that thing back to functional. To be sure, it is functional now; but I galled the hell out of the finish. You really have to force the thumb safety into the safe position and then push the thumb safety with intent to get the safety to the “off” position. So it is now a PLINKING and Range gun exclusively.

The mainsprings, surprisingly, were not a problem at all. Just getting the sear shaped correctly to make proper contact with the internals was the rough part.

Then again, I bought the PT1911 to be a project and learning gun. It serves the same purpose as a cadaver does to a Med school anatomy class. And, no, have no plan to pawn this gun off on somebody even tho it shoots fine.
 
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I went through sort of the same stuff with my PT1911. Instead of being the better gun surgeon, tho, I mucked mine up. I bought an aftermarket Right thumb safety and wanted simply to replace the stock ambi safety and it was listed as a “drop in” part.

Long story short, it took 2 days of intense YouTube study, 2 days of filing internal points, a good day of isolated dremelling of parts, etc for me to get that thing back to functional. To be sure, it is functional now; but I galled the hell out of the finish. You really have to force the thumb safety into the safe position and then push the thumb safety with intent to get the safety to the “off” position. So it is now a PLINKING and Range gun exclusively.

The mainsprings, surprisingly, were not a problem at all. Just getting the sear shaped correctly to make proper contact with the internals was the rough part.

Then again, I bought the PT1911 to be a project and learning gun. It serves the same purpose as a cadaver does to a Med school anatomy class. And, no, have no plan to pawn this gun off on somebody even tho it shoots fine.
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I mean, this is a $700+ gun. I know the Pawnshop didn't give the guy anywhere near that for it, especially in a non-functional state (and the guy telling them that all he did was put those funky clam shell grips on it that include a polymer rail addition, and that right after that it magically stopped working).

If they gave him $200 for it I'd be surprised, and a bit shocked!

I've been there when they buy guns from people - I watched an M&P Shield come in and they gave the guy $100. Turned around and sold the thing for $400 a week later.
Yeah, probably why Rick (Pawn Stars), is rolling in cash. :p
 

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I never fall onto deals like that. I'd love to find a project gun (where some semblance of parts are available). Sadly I don't have a favorite pawn shop I can hang out at for any period of time.
 
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I mean, this is a $700+ gun. I know the Pawnshop didn't give the guy anywhere near that for it, especially in a non-functional state (and the guy telling them that all he did was put those funky clam shell grips on it that include a polymer rail addition, and that right after that it magically stopped working).

If they gave him $200 for it I'd be surprised, and a bit shocked!

I've been there when they buy guns from people - I watched an M&P Shield come in and they gave the guy $100. Turned around and sold the thing for $400 a week later.
Big Ugly Tall Texan used to argue that the Guys on Pawn Stars stole stuff from sellers. My arguement was I saw them pay good money for stuff I didn't think was worth squat. I have seen them pay up to 80% if they think it will move fast, or if Rick wants something for himself! It is always best to be a buyer at a pawn shop instead of a seller!
 
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Big Ugly Tall Texan used to argue that the Guys on Pawn Stars stole stuff from sellers. My arguement was I saw them pay good money for stuff I didn't think was worth squat. I have seen them pay up to 80% if they think it will move fast, or if Rick wants something for himself! It is always best to be a buyer at a pawn shop instead of a seller!
These guys I work with keep it straight - they tell you up front that they aren't giving you what it's worth to you, they are giving you what they need as a bottom dollar safety net, so if you brought in a pile of crap, that they aren't out much. Plus, nobody is forcing anyone to sell them anything.

The customers that come in more often and deal, both in selling and buying, generally get more of a benefit of the doubt. They gave me $350 for my PT24/7G2C in .40S&W, toward a Beretta PX4 Storm sub compact that they were asking $600 for but let me have it for $450 - so $100 out of pocket, and they haven't charged me a transfer fee in years...
 

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I have never really liked pawn shops. There are too many that simply prey on people down on their luck IMHO. Then turn around and sell to others that may not have any other place to shop due to lack of transportation etc..etc... I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but the ones I've visited in the past weren't them. One near me went out of business rather than charge fair prices... they often had used handguns that they were asking $100+ over MSRP on what new guns of the same model sold for???

I once asked the guy if he had a internet connection? He asked why? I said so he could look up new gun prices. He stammered and said "well I've got costs..." I said so let me ask this...when's the last time you sold a gun? He hesitated and I said, if you have to think that hard, you might want to rethink your business model.... (said nicely).

Less than a year later the place sits boarded up, some folks just shouldn't go into business I guess.
 

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I have never really liked pawn shops. There are too many that simply prey on people down on their luck IMHO. Then turn around and sell to others that may not have any other place to shop due to lack of transportation etc..etc... I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but the ones I've visited in the past weren't them. One near me went out of business rather than charge fair prices... they often had used handguns that they were asking $100+ over MSRP on what new guns of the same model sold for???

I once asked the guy if he had a internet connection? He asked why? I said so he could look up new gun prices. He stammered and said "well I've got costs..." I said so let me ask this...when's the last time you sold a gun? He hesitated and I said, if you have to think that hard, you might want to rethink your business model.... (said nicely).

Less than a year later the place sits boarded up, some folks just shouldn't go into business I guess.

I hang out in our local pawn shop quite a bit and see all kinds of people "down on their luck" and most of them have made that luck themselves. When they purchase anything, they get fingerprints on file the first time and run any high to medium dollar items by the police before placing the item for sale - and have been privy to a number of times that some joker has brought in stolen items (hint, they get all squirrelly when the fingerprint part comes up) and have been there for the cops to intercept people or goods too. There are, of course, some naturally predatory pawn shops, but nobody forces anyone to sell anything. As you said, if they are selling too high, they won't remain in business, but sell too low and the same holds true ;).
 
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I hang out in our local pawn shop quite a bit and see all kinds of people "down on their luck" and most of them have made that luck themselves. When they purchase anything, they get fingerprints on file the first time and run any high to medium dollar items by the police before placing the item for sale - and have been privy to a number of times that some joker has brought in stolen items (hint, they get all squirrelly when the fingerprint part comes up) and have been there for the cops to intercept people or goods too. There are, of course, some naturally predatory pawn shops, but nobody forces anyone to sell anything. As you said, if they are selling too high, they won't remain in business, but sell too low and the same holds true ;).
Oh no doubt some folks find them useful, and there are some good ones obviously. I've just never had the good fortune to find one. ;)

Detroit was littered with what you referred to as predatory pawn shops, and here in the Phoenix valley I find lots of same.. :(

You're lucky to have a good one.
 
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