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I just read another inane article on how your AR does not need a forward assist. How it is just useless weight and if you need to use the forward assist there is something else wrong with your AR. This particular is written by a Tiger McKee.

https://gundigest.com/rifles/ars-ri...tm_source=Campaign Monitor&utm_term=Read more

Now why is there a Forward Assist on the M16/M4? It is not because some "experts" in the Army overruled some "experts" in the Air Force as Mr. McKee alludes. It is because the AR Direct Impingement Gas system is very dirty and very hot. A lot has been said about how the M16 was originally pitched as self-cleaning, but the military changed the gunpowder and caused major issues, and that is true to an extent. The ball powder used in Vietnam was very dirty and led to carbon buildup in the M16 very quickly, especially if you were using it in full auto mode. After hours of combat, it was likely that carbon buildup was an issue and it could prevent your bolt from fully seating. And while it would be nice if no one shot at you as you cleaned your weapon, that just isn't the case in combat. You clean up afterwards. The Forward Assist was insurance to make sure you could remain in the fight, even if you were hitting that Forward Assist on every round.

So when I read one of these articles, my first thought is usually, "Stupid Civilian". Now that is not necessarily a bad term, just that their perspective is limited to their environment. If all you ever do is go to the range, shoot competitively, or fire a few shots during hunting season, yep, that Forward Assist is probably completely unnecessary in your little world. For us Vets, it is simple insurance that, even though it is carboned up bad, I can get another round threw it when needed until I have a break that affords me cleaning it.

Now if you want to talk about those Air Force "experts" that decided long range accuracy was a bit more important than the added lethality of a tumbling bullet, well have at those Bus Drivers.
 

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Also, considering the diverse terrains that a soldier could be fighting in (Jungle in VN or, and much more particularly important, Desert!) all kinds of gunk can find its way into the chamber and cause a failure to go into battery. We've all seen the occasions when a particular brand of ammo won't chamber in a pistol and we smack the back of the slide lightly to close the breach - that's pretty much what the FA is on an AR. Civilians don't think about this sort of thing (they all need to take a look at Ski over at AK Operators Union and check some of their torture tests!)
 

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Yes and yes!
 

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The thing that suddenly struck me as funny was a NutnFancy video I saw a while back with him "reviewing" a PSA AR and talking about the FA, something along the lines of "I don't need it". This is a guy who will ramble for hours on Philosophy of Use, then runs around in the high deserts for hours on end ... seems to me he'd find a need for them sooner or later...
 
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The FA is just insurance. to claim no one needs insurance is foolish as history has shown time and time again there is a need.
 

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When building my AR it was a requirement. Not because I ever thought I would need it, but I didn't want to be in need and be without it. Like a BUG, spare tire, or any other contingency item. To each their own though.
 

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Probably best to quit ready the articles by pundits.

Ask a vet if the forward assist is necessary.

The simple answer is yes. I'm a vet. It is a backup to the operation of gas impingement rifles.
 

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Mine doesn't have one and I've never needed it. For how I use mine, I'm just fine without it.
 
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My rifles have them but I would never use it unless I am actually fighting off a home invasion. If a shell jams I'm going to pull the bolt back and see what's going on. Then I'll carefully remove the round. Now in a life or death situation that's obviously a different story.
 
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I would never, ever put one on my rifle.

AKs don't need 'em. :cool: [ducks for cover from a hail of tiny, tiny little boolets]
 
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I would never, ever put one on my rifle.

AKs don't need 'em. :cool: [ducks for cover from a hail of tiny, tiny little boolets]
Guns of my enemies, I know them only because the field is littered with them.



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It's an AR. All the bits can be useful. If you never use great, but if it's needed I want it there. More useful than much of the tacticool stuff that some bolt on their ARs.jmho
 

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I would never, ever put one on my rifle.

AKs don't need 'em. :cool: [ducks for cover from a hail of tiny, tiny little boolets]
I had a round of Tulammo that wouldn't go into battery. You simply stomp the back of the charging handle for the forward assist on an AK. After firing, I had to kick it the opposite direction to extract the casing.

As others have said, forward assist on an AR is cheap insurance. Most modern propellants burn cleaner than their predecessors, so YMMV.
 

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I would never, ever put one on my rifle.

AKs don't need 'em. :cool: [ducks for cover from a hail of tiny, tiny little boolets]
AK's have one, it's the back of the bolt carrier charging handle. M1 Garand has one, it's the back of the charging handle on the OP rod, the same on the M1A, and Mini 14.

Those guns don't have one because the charging handle functions as such as well.

The AR needed the redundancy that all of them already had.

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My M&P 15 doesn't have one, and hasn't had the need for one in my circumstances. If i was in a combat situation in the middle of the desert, i wouldn't mind having one just in case. But from the bench at the range in Western Pennsylvania, I'm not going to get upset about it.

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