Taurus semi auto recoil ?

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Stroker

Discussion Starter · Dec 28, 2017

Thinking of getting a used Taurus semi in .45 acp.
PT 845
PT 145
24/7
24/7 c

Is there much of a recoil difference among the group and if so how would you rate them?

The older I get the less I enjoy punishing my hand as well as what's left of my shoulder.The two severely jammed(swollen and thought they were broken at first) fingers on my shooting hand aren't exactly healing quickly enough either.

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youngandfree

· #2 · Dec 28, 2017

The 845 and 24/7 might be a bit more comfortable being larger in size. The pt145 is tied up in the lawsuit. I have one and haven't sent it in. I took it out a couple weeks ago to blow the dust out of it. So I wouldn't pay more than about $250 for one of those due to the lawsuit.

I havent shot an 845 or the new 24/7 models. 845 is discontinued I think, so don't know if that will influence your decision. I like the looks of the 845 myself.

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BackStop

· #3 · Dec 28, 2017

I don't own any of the guns you listed, but I do have a PT 809. As youngandfree noted, and I am sure you are aware, compacts are usually more prone to higher "felt" recoil due to weight and size. However, something I can tell you about the PT 809, which I think it shares with the PT 845, is that the grip is kind of "square". I bought mine while my EDC was at S&W and mainly due to the price at the time. Some people like the squarish grip, and although I don't, it is something to consider. I am not sure if the 24/7 is the same or not.

Good luck in any case!

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youngandfree

· #4 · Dec 28, 2017

https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=128436

24/7 compact

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Czechbikr

· #5 · Dec 28, 2017

You didn't list the PT 1911..so I am wondering if you are seeking a possible carry piece (although a lot of folks will carry the 1911).

I've only fired the PT 145 out of your list and I didn't think that the recoil was too bad with that poly framed pistol, perhaps due to the geometry, but it is possible to limp wrist that model if tired or not maintaining a strong grip.

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right2arms

· #6 · Dec 28, 2017

I'm a little confused. Discontinued and lawsuit pistols, with lack of support, parts, and scarce used magazines. Even those that are recently discontinued might be a pain for Taurus to fix, or a willingness to fix them with the rumor of a change in Taurus' warranty to only support pistols discontinued for 5 years. I could be wrong, and I suspect I am not telling you anything you have not already considered.

If I were looking for a .45acp and only wanted to consider Taurus, it would be the 1911. There are just too many good brands out there that can fill the need that does not have all the negative issues. I hope Taurus will come out with a new .45acp, including going to a commander sized version of the 1911. A micro 9mm 1911 would be cool too.

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BackStop

· #7 · Dec 28, 2017 (Edited)

If you can handle the weight and carrying is not an issue (whether you intend to carry it or not), then it is hard to beat a 1911 for shoot-ability in .45 ACP.

But, then again, there is that capacity issue...

p.s.

Don't jump on me as a 1911 basher!

I do own a Ruger SR1911 (Full Size) and LOVE it!

Czechbikr said:
You didn't list the PT 1911..so I am wondering if you are seeking a possible carry piece (although a lot of folks will carry the 1911).

I've only fired the PT 145 out of your list and I didn't think that the recoil was too bad with that poly framed pistol, perhaps due to the geometry, but it is possible to limp wrist that model if tired or not maintaining a strong grip.

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NotSo

· #8 · Dec 28, 2017

Don't discount the effort required to work the slide. You may be unable to do this in the future if your hands are giving you trouble now.

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olfarhors

· #9 · Dec 28, 2017

BackStop said:
If you can handle the weight and carrying is not an issue (whether you intend to carry it or not), then it is hard to beat a 1911 for shoot-ability in .45 ACP.

But, then again, there is that capacity issue...

p.s.

Don't jump on me as a 1911 basher! I do own a Ruger SR1911 (Full Size) and LOVE it!

IT all depends on WHICH 1911 that you buy!
I got a steel framed Dan Wesson high capacity that weighs in at 54 ounces loaded and then I have a Springfield Micro Compact officer model alloy frame that weighs in at about 29-30 ounces loaded.
of course the smaller/lighter one has a lot more recoil.

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maloy

· #10 · Dec 28, 2017

Stroker said:
Thinking of getting a used Taurus semi in .45 acp.
PT 845
PT 145
24/7
24/7 c

Is there much of a recoil difference among the group and if so how would you rate them?

The older I get the less I enjoy punishing my hand as well as what's left of my shoulder.The two severely jammed(swollen and thought they were broken at first) fingers on my shooting hand aren't exactly healing quickly enough either.

Recoil is subjective, but I was playing with my .45 ACP 24/7 OSS this morning and it is fun to shoot. Personally .45 ACP is fun to shoot from full size pistols, or all steel 1911's. As the pistols get lighter, the more you will feel.

One of the nicest recoil pistols I have is a Regent R350 CR. Because of the light rail it is near the same wait as a full size 1911.

http://www.regentarms.com/r350-cr/

In the order of less to more from my feel.

PT-1911 all steel in 45 ACP probably has the least in the line up from Taurus.

PT 845 has the least
24/7 (It is very close to the PT-845)
24/7C
PT-145 most

The above list is going from my memory. I had once compared them to the OSS, and it has the least of all their polymer offering in .45 ACP at the time.

Maloy

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olfarhors

· #11 · Dec 28, 2017

lots of things determine felt recoil.
ergonomics of the particular gun to your hand/body, height of center bore above the frame. weight, how much weight that you have forward (as in longer or heavier barrel, or under lug).
then the old what weight and power projectile that you use.

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Stroker

Discussion Starter · #12 · Dec 28, 2017

I have several 1911's in .45(including Taurus AL aluminum frame) so that is covered.Thinking of a higher capacity .45 and like the value of Taurus.Replacement parts and recalls don't concern me.Plus it is a reason to buy another pistol.

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maloy

· #13 · Dec 28, 2017

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/732914250

Here's one without any bids.

I really like mine. I've two 45's and one 9mm. One of the .45's has the factory night sights.

Maloy

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Czechbikr

· #14 · Dec 28, 2017

Stroker said:
I have several 1911's in .45(including Taurus AL aluminum frame) so that is covered.Thinking of a higher capacity .45 and like the value of Taurus.Replacement parts and recalls don't concern me.Plus it is a reason to buy another pistol.

AHA...well we can certainly help with THAT...can't we?

After I sent my PT 145 SS to Taurus heaven (or where ever) I began the search for another carry gun in 45 ACP and have to tell you it is tough to find the same features of that lamented and long gone gun.

The first one gotten was the EAA Witness Compact with the Wonder finish. All metal frame, compact to carry but heavier and a smaller capacity...8 + 1. The stock sights shot low to POA...called them and they sent an adjustable LPA rear sight which has helped a lot. The recoil is manageable, but snappier than the PT 145.

The I acquired the S & W Shield in 45 ACP. Poly frame, SS slided in black. Smaller capacity still at 7 + 1 with the "extended magazine. Very accurate out of the box with again a snappy recoil.

If felt recoil is the issue, then the usual advice follows. Find one to rent or borrow and put a box of ammo through it to get your own impression. If you find one you like but are hesitant to spend the cash...we'll certainly be glad to help push you over the edge...we're good like that.

As said early on though, I would avoid the recall guns unless available at rock bottom, $200.00 +/- prices, because that's all it's worth if it malfunctions after you get it.

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CJS3

· #15 · Dec 28, 2017

I've always thought that recoil on Taurus semi autos was a bit milder than other brands, mainly due to the double recoil spring assembly. Of course everyone is using that now, so YMMV.

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Stroker

Discussion Starter · #16 · Dec 29, 2017

Most of the recall guns seem to be going for retail pricing and I won't pay that much for one.Still looking for the "right" deal.

I held an 845 years ago and liked it.People seem to say the PT145 is a soft shooter as well.Guess I may have to buy both! LOL in a world where I had more money.

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right2arms

· #17 · Dec 29, 2017 (Edited)

I have a Glock 30 from the 90's that has served me well, but I get that darn itch. I keep looking at the S&W shield and M&P compact in .45acp. Then I bounce back to the Ruger American Compact .45, but length and weight versus capacity bothers me a little. In it's defense the mag is either single or slightly staggered stack and the 7 round capacity of the standard mag makes the grip frame slimmer than the Glock from what I can remember when holding one. The 10 round magazine does add some length to the grip. The RAP9C grip frame is pretty slim. You can get some killer deals on the RAP's, well under $400.00 new at times and it is built like a tank with Stainless steel and Nitrided finishes. I will probably end up owning one. I love my RAP9C.

The pistol I keep going back to and salivating a little more is the Springfield XD mod.2 subcompact 3.3":
XD Mod.2 3.3" Sub-Compact .45ACP Concealed Carry Pistol
I have never owned a Springfield. Might be about time.

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maloy

· #18 · Dec 29, 2017

At a few gun shows, I've spotted OSS models. It seems they are now rising in price even with the recall. They are back up where they were new and sometimes a little more.

However, at one table a guy has had the stainless slide and black frame for $400 and cannot move it. It's .40 S&W. I picked it up one day, and said, " Oh, it's a forty", and put it back down. He said he has heard that too many times, a .45 or 9mm would have been gone by now. About a month ago he asked me to make an offer. I told him I wouldn't offer $200 because it is a .40, and I don't due .40 S&W.

Nothing wrong with .40, but I reload .357, .45 Colt, .45 ACP, and 9mm when the prices are too high for it. With cast lead, I can get away with .358" in 9mm, and .356" in the .357. Also, .452 can work in the Colt, or ACP. So it's to simplify the amount of bullets to buy.

If I'd kept my 10mm or went with .41 magnum, I might have done .40 S&W.

Maloy

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youngandfree

· #19 · Dec 29, 2017

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/15617/eaa_999158_witness_steel_10+1_45acp_45

Just get this.

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Czechbikr

· #20 · Dec 29, 2017

youngandfree said:
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/mobile/product/15617/eaa_999158_witness_steel_10+1_45acp_45

Just get this.

That would be a good choice IMO...the additional weight over the Compact version would further attenuate the felt recoil.

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