[joe sixpack]

i dont think it will keep growing it will slow down i think..

why? well the 92 i bought is flawless.. a bit rough under the pistol grips and stuff but other wise a very solid gun.

the revolver i bought 627 tracker, had problems with the first 2 i got BRAND NEW. QA seems to be sporadic at best.

also it seems their prices are creeping up ever so much.. without putting the finishing touches and refining the guns that extra little bit as their prices get closer and closer to other brands that do S&W, Beretta, Ruger.. they're sells will probably slow since there is less value in buying their guns over the competition.. true they have some unique guns.. but most of what they sell are clones or very similar can be had else where.

if they clean up their QA and refine the guns a little more i dont see any reason they can't compete on the same level as every one else.

 

[joe sixpack]

Thanks for the message. The demand for Taurus' revolvers and pistols is booming, at record and never before seen levels. As the firm's profits exceed earlier expectations and more money is invested on R&D, to enhance the quality of its products and production efficiency, Taurus tends to increasingly be associated with the industry's cutting edge.

well i can say this.. i would not buy another revolver from them because of the hassle of finding a good sample of the tracker i bought.. 2 pos out of 3 guns is not what i would call quality on any level.

the 92 has all the good qualities as my beretta.. but the fit and finish is not even in the same league, and once you start hanging with the big boys it's not enough to have a functional gun, it has to also be tight and pretty.

they have record sells.. well so i hear.. but i might suggest it's easier to climb the ladder then it is to hang on.. quality comes before success not the other way around, luckly i've not had to deal with CS yet but from the stories i've heard it's nothing but delays and excuses.

people trying to collect on the life time warrant have been givin the finger.. granted this what i've read no 1st hand exp yet.

a victim of their own success where customers outpaced their ability to service them.. you wont continue to grow and gain brand recognition if that lasts long term.

with all the used berettas and police trade in's on the market.. i think if someone asked me for advice i'd suggest picking up a used beretta which can be had for less then new taurus unless they want it for the safety.. which i happily give favor to the taurus for.

if it could use beretta mags without modification it would be so much the better, understandably they was designed independently in the same period so thats not possible unless they change the design now and cause compatibility problems within their own product line.

i know i sound like im bashing taurus a bit.. but it's the truth the value has been sucked out of this gun maker.. if they increase fit&finish then they can compete with everyone else.. but as their prices push closer and closer everyone else you must ask your self WHY taurus? although they have some unique designs most are clones or very similar to whats already out on the market.. if they push prices higher and higher and still sell "rough" guns i dont see the point in saving 50 bucks.. thats not what i call a value.

at this point i suggest scaling back prices a bit other wise they should go the opposite route and increase quality.. because this half way in between is not a good value and not up to snuff on the finishing touches.

Dont get me wrong, I am happy with my pt92 and 627 tracker.
BUT if the prices get much higher i'd see little point in buying a taurus, esp with their seemingly lack of QA.


P.S
it does not take R&D to finish a piece up, you have damaged guns R&D can't fix that.. R&D also can't fix tool marks and metal burs, scratches and tool marks left over from forging/casting/machining..

what fixes this is attention to detail and a few bucks extra to clean the gun up before it's sent out.
it's like polishing the hub cap on a car when it rolls off the assembly line, it might take a little extra effort to do but it's not high tech.