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The sun was out, the temps were moderate, no wind. It must be time to let two of my favorite budget pistols battle it out.
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Today's match up is a Brazilian up and comer versus another German surprise contender. The Taurus G3 and the Walther Creed. Both of these pistol's street price is similar. I paid $259 OTD for the G3, and $289 OTD for the Creed. Man do we live in the golden age of pistol consumer choice or what. The list of sub $300 pistols seems almost endless, and most are quality offerings from reputable companies.
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Here are the contenders specs:
Taurus G3 1-15 &1-17 round magWalther Creed 2- 16 round mags
Trigger pull = 5.5lbsTrigger pull 5lbs
1/2" takeup3/8" takeup
3/16" reset3/16" reset
4" barrel4" barrel
L - 7.28"L - 7.3"
H - 5.2"H - 5.6"
W - 1.26"W - 1.3"
All metal guide rod/springPlastic guide rod/metal spring
Front & rear cocking serrationsFront & rear cocking serrations
3 slot pic rail2 slot pic rail
Tenifer slide finishTenifer slide finish
Single action with re-strikepre-cocked hammer
Weight - G3 w/empty mag 24.5ozWeight - Creed w/empty mag 26.7oz
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The Creed is a bit wider and longer at the grip. Both pistols come with a three dot sighting system, the front dot on the Creed is larger.
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The creed uses a take down lever to break down, the G3 has the Glock style takedown tabs. The internals are similar in function, but each manufacturer approaches the mechanisms in a slightly different way. Both slides are beefy, the G3 has a bit more frame rail length. Take down and reassemble is easier with the Creed. The G3 slide needs a little wiggle to find its way home.
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I ran 150 rounds through both with no problems using a mix of reloads and factory brass. Both pistols eject the empty magazines with authority, both grip frames are beveled to assist in stripping a jammed magazine out of the gun.
Shooting impressions:
The Taurus G3 has a bit less recoil flip
Both grip frames are very comfortable (although I did install traction grips on the Creed)
Both slide stop/release levers release the slide easily - however the Creed is more tactile
The sights on the G3 are a bit small and dim ( I did paint the front with orange Flouresent paint ), the sights on the Creed are perfect.
Magazine releases are average, both can be activated without breaking your grip with training.
Both pistols are accurate, as the target above shows. With the edge going to the G3. I shot this target at 20 yards.
The G3 slide is easier to pull back then the Creed. But the Creed is easier than many other full size guns, just a bit gravelly.
G3 total round count - 620 - with 0 malfunctions. Feeds Sig V-crowns very smooth
Creed round count - approx 500 with 1 malfunctions. Feeds Sig V-crowns ok, but the first round did jam up on the smaller feed ramp, however the remainder of the mag ran well. I find Sig V-crowns will usually cause feed problems on barrels with narrow feed ramps or unsupported chambers.

To wrap this up, both of these budget guns exceeded my expectations for what little money I had to pay. I am so impressed with the Creed it is one of my bedroom guns. With over 600 flawless rounds through the G3, it is going into my carry rotation. you can't go wrong with either of these examples of quality budget offerings.
 

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Sorry gang, TA.net had a dbase error when I submitted. I force added the pics to the end of the review, but they are in sequence. Arghh. 90 minutes to create a review and 30 minutes trying to save it from the dbase gremlins.
 

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This is an excellent review and analysis...Thanks!
 

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Great comprehensive comparison review here. So many gun comparisons on the Internet are lacking in some of the most obvious ways, it makes me wonder if they even had both guns (or even one).

It's nice to see that you don't discriminate on the basis of...CREED.
 

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FANTASTIC REVIEW

I wish Taurus made the G3 in .40 S&W
Give Taurus time. They made sure the G2c worked well in 9mm before introducing it in .40 S&W, so it's possible that a G3 in .40 is down the pike.

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Silverstring beat Guns & Ammo magazine to the review

Guns & Ammo magazine in the Dec issue has a review of the G3 , just picked it up today

They also called the Taurus TX .22 " GUN OF THE YEAR "

OKNEWSHAWK I hope you are right , I have enough of 9mm and I love the .40 S&W format
 

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FANTASTIC REVIEW

I wish Taurus made the G3 in .40 S&W

Why? I used to own .40 S&W pistols, but I got rid of all of them. Even the FBI abandoned the .40 S&W. They went back to the 9mm. Don't believe all of the hype about the 9mm being anemic, when compared to the .40 S&W. The 9mm is not the 9mm of years past. There are loads that can give the same size wound canals as the .45 ACP. The 9mm round is less expensive. The S&W M&P 2.0 Compact pistols hold 15+1 in 9mm, and 13+1 in .40 S&W. The full sized M&Ps in 9mm hold 17+1, while the ..40 S&W hold 15+1. Two rounds don't seem like much, but then, 2 more rounds are 2 more rounds.
I carry in all of my 9mms, a defense round of 147gr JHP. These rounds are Federal 9MS. They come in 50 round boxes, and they are reasonably priced, government contract overrun. They have been both reliable and accurate.
The product info at my source reads. "This law-enforcement product is the next generation in high performance duty ammunition. This product offers consistent expansion and optimum penetration for terminal performance. A specially designed hollow-point tip won't plug while passing through a variety of barriers and this bullet holds its jacket in the toughest conditions."
 

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FANTASTIC REVIEW

I wish Taurus made the G3 in .40 S&W
I agree. I did buy and carry a G2C in 40 S&W so I know it can be done, I believe like most everyone that it is only a matter of time for the G-3 to be sporting 40 S&W too.

On the Creed, I have it's predecessor a PPX, I believe the Creed has a much improved trigger and I would like one for that reason, and I have six spare 9 MM PPX magazines. I also have a 40 PPX and my wife and I both like it a lot better that the 9MM, the 40 seems to be a lot more accurate and while the triggers are similar the 40 PPX shines compared to the 9MM PPX.

Personally I'm 9MM'd out.
 

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Not to rob silverstring's thread

I did e-mail Taurus about the .40 S&W in the G3 . I was told a different cal. is likely in the future

Pandaz3 I'm not 9mm'd out but I do like the .40 a lot better also
 

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#silverstring, are you sure that the G3 slide is tenifer treated? I have not been able to find that on Taurus' website. Thanks.

Per an earlier post in this thread, I showed the page from the owners manual stating it is tenifer coated.
 
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