Just got off the phone with customer service and this is the info on back orders of the 709 magazines. Taurus only receives shipments at the end of the month and sends out back orders the first week of the next month. If the magazines are not in the shipment then it will be another month before they "might" come in. Lousy customer service. Well don't expect that to change anytime soon. No matter how excellent a weapon may be if you can't get magazines the weapons reputation and the companies reputation suffers.