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This guy says he is interested in a 9mm. I asked him what was the intended purpose of said 9mm, concealed carry, home defense, or general shooting enjoyment. His answer was "YES". So I figured that this being the most popular of the Taurus Pistols forums, I would ask here. Which of the Taurus line of pistols would best suit his needs and why would you recommend it or why you would steer clear of one?
 

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PT111 Mil Pro for all three purposes, small enough to conceal carry, great for home defense and a decent range gun.. A 709 would conceal easier, a PT 92 would be a more accurate range gun and great range gun but is too big for conceal carry, and neither will do all three as well as the PT111
 

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9mm, Home defense, general shooting enjoyment === PT 92. A little big for CCW

9mm, Conceal carry, home defense, general shooting == PT111
 

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I really like my pt111. It has been a great pistol for me . I find it very easy to conceal , fun to shoot if you can get use to the heine sights. And as far as home protection I would leave it here for the wife but she likes my pt145. I have no reason for you not to buy a taurus I have 3 so far and I plan on buying taurus again .
 

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I can't speak for skinny guys:), but with the right holster and proper dress you can conceal comfortably a full size gun. I'd take him shooting especially if there is a range nearby that rents guns and see what fits him best.
 
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I was leaning towards the PT111 or the 24/7 G2 Compact, based solely on internet research. If only there was a range around that had Taurus products to rent. He's not exactly a skinny gun so maybe a full sized 24/7 might not be a bad choice either. He's just starting his quest though.
 

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I don't own one (yet) but I'm seriously considering getting the pt111. Seems like a great piece.
 

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The larger pistols that fit him would work well. Not that the smaller ones won't work for a house gun. They will. Just that it is easier to shoot the larger guns for most people.

The Taurus 809/800 series, full size 24/7G2s, and the PT92/PT100 fill the bill. The PT1911 single action pistols work well here ,too.

One thing that has to be considered is are there other people in the household who might need to use the same gun to defend themselves or others with? If so then something that fits all of the individuals that are qualified to shoot need to be considered.


For something smaller the 24/7 compact G2s, 800 series compacts, PT111 MillenniumG2, and the PT140G2 come into play.
The 24/7 compacts and the 800 series compacts have 3.5 in barrels compared to the PT111's 3.2" barrel. The difference may seem little but the 24/7s compacts and 800 series compacts give a little velocity boost compared to the PT111G2.

I own 5 Millennium Pro pistols but consider them more carry CCW guns more so than home defense pieces. Used as a home defense pistol is possible. I would use them for such in a pinch or if the need arised, but I have larger or mid-frame guns for that.

Just to muddy the waters if one carries at home, and I do, the Millennium series or other Taurus compacts can be with you always inside and outside the home at all times. Not bad. :)

The slightly larger size may also of the 24/7 and 800 series compacts would give a little more heft and size to the user to hold on and use. This would help with keeping the gun a bit more steady and help with recoil just a little bit as well.

Stay away from the mini compact guns though they could be used for house guns. They are harder to learn to shoot and be proficient with compared to their larger brethren. Remember, he or others will have to do this under great duress, loss of gross motor skills,and under adrenaline dump conditions. Having to manipulate controls on the gun under those conditions is hard at best. Yes, practice will count for a lot. The mini-compacts should be considered as a last resort but can be used if need be.

The PT709 is my only exception to that. It has some of the PT111 advantages but just in a smaller package. Recoil is subjective, but easy to control compared to some .380ACP pistols that are smaller. 9x19 has a punch the .380ACP,good as it is, just does not have. Just to muddy the waters again I own two Taurus PT58Ss and Beretta 85 in .380ACP. The longer barrels on those three .380s is much longer than the mini-compact .380s and are more user friendly than the mini-pistols. PT58s are no longer available in the States,are overseas,and the Beretta should be considered.
Newer PT58HCs are availble as used or may be new at Guns for Sale - Online Gun Auction - Buy Guns at GunBroker.com , Guns For Sale at GunAuction.com , or Guns For Sale, Gun Auctions, Buy and Sell Guns, Online . Spare magazines are hard to find and a gun auction available only kind of thing.

Another thing. Whatever rounds are in the gun are more than likely what the defender will have on tap for the duration of the incident. There is not always time or does one have the means to carry spare ammo in a confrontation. A person might, but it is not always possible.

Revolvers that are midsize might be a good idea as well as the controls and manual of arms are user friendly and simple compared to semi-auto pistols.

6,7, or 8 shot models are a Taurus staple. Models 65,66,617,and 82 come to mind.
 

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PT111 Mil Pro for all three purposes, small enough to conceal carry, great for home defense and a decent range gun.. A 709 would conceal easier, a PT 92 would be a more accurate range gun and great range gun but is too big for conceal carry, and neither will do all three as well as the PT111

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner here. Same thoughts I had.
 

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I can't believe I'm saying this (Dear Milpro please don't take offense, I still love you). I would recommend the 24/7c G2. Its got a tiny bit more weight to it, and has the longer mag extensions (yes I know we can get them for the G1 milpros). Overall I think "out of the box" a user who is looking for all 3 would be better off with the 24/7 G2. The 24/7 also has quite a few official/supported accessories than the Milpros (compared to our "try and see" lists). By throwing in the longer mag and dropping a flashlight on the rail, it makes a decent home defense gun. It also has a decocker for someone who may not like having a single action "cocked and locked" gun sitting on their hip or nightstand (my wife comes to mind). It's also been out longer so there are more accessories than the PT111 G2, which would be my second choice.

Right or wrong, that's my view. I LOVE my PT145. But there are times that I eye the G2's and my mouth starts watering.
 

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Ignorant as I am. what I have is what I like.

The pt111 and the 24/7 C are my carry pieces, so they're good wherever whenever.

The 24/7 is a range gun, the revolver and the 1911 for home defense.
 

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For all purposes I`ll side with the PT 111!!! any generation....Small enough to carry.....Great for home defense....And great for the range also......
 

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The PT-111 Millennium Pro is the closest one will every get to a "one size fits all" gun.
Same way I feel, except PT140 MilPro or G2 which fit the all round pistol for SD, HD & range. If not in a rush to buy would wait for the PT140G2 with added accessory rail - I prefer HD have a LED flashlight, but not a deal breaker. When used in HD you can use a PT24/7Pro 15 rd mag with or without mag spacer, makes the MilProG1 or G2 even more utile.
 

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9mm? You might as well be shooting a pellet gun! Or a sling shot perhaps?

Go .45 or don't bother showing up!

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