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This pole assumes that each of the guns would be purchased at the typical sale price that you might find wherever you shop. You are going to withdraw your "hard earned" money to pay for it. The gun will see a fair amount of time at the range for practice. Also, it will be on duty at home with 38+P (even the Ruger). You may on occasion, carry this gun too.

Note: The guns are listed in the order of highest to lowest retail price.

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I voted Other for a couple of reasons. First off, I would rather get a 357 than a 38 even if it would be mostly shot with 38 as then you have the option to shift to a more powerful round if you so chose. Second, for a gun thats primarily night stand duty I would get something that held more rounds and had a larger grip than a snubby (yes, you can switch to larger grips but you can't enlarge the cylinder).

For what you described I'd seriously look at a Taurus 617. You have the greater retention abilities of the short barrel, you have 7 rds of 357/38 in the cylinder and you have a larger grip. Also the greater weight of the gun would reduce the amount of recoil your feel, depending on how well the grips fit your hands. What you don't have is the ability to easily carry the gun in a pocket. This gun would probably need a belt holster for carry.

I feel the Smith revolvers are over priced as well (but not so bad) as the Rugers. However, that SP101 will be shooting magnum rounds long after the others are back getting rebuilt.

Now if you are talking about a gun thats primarily a carry gun that also does night stand duty as well as a range gun I'd look at a Taurus 651. You have the smaller size for ease of carry, the option to cock the hammer, the ability to have smaller grips for carry or larger grips for night stand or range work.

FYI, my secondary carry/ready access home defense gun is a Taurus 650 which is loaded with a medium velocity 357 Magnum load (Winchester 110gr JHP). The recoil on them is similar (to me) to the Remington 158gr LHP in 38 special +P out of either my M650 or my M85. Previous to this my M85 was in the secondary role.

Here's a link to a thread where we discussed various reduced recoil/medium velocity 357 loads.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=3169.0

As far as the Rossi, I'd still rather get a 357 than a 38, unless the 38 is a great price (like my M85 was). I'd take a look at the R461 or R462. They are basically the same weight (26 oz vs 24 oz), hold an extra round (6 vs 5) and are in 357. Plus the 357 guns have the same MSRP as the 38 guns. Where the Rossi really comes out ahead is in price. I think the MSRP on the blued gun us a bit lower than what I see anything else on the list for locally by a bit. Where they are behind is that there isn't much for after market grips etc for the Rossi's that I'm aware of. If you don't like what the gun comes with I'm not sure what all is out there. Newer Rossi's are covered under the Taurus Warranty.

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The .357 Rossi snub. 1 more shot than the .38, and the price is right. Personally, for solely nightstand HD duty, I would shop for a used SW M10 or M64. They're are a lot of them around for under $300 out the door.
 

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I voted other also because I have a 605SSCH which is 357 and I love it. It goes everywhere with me either as a primary or a BUG
 

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I voted other since my choice is the Taurus 605. I like the idea of a .357 alternative, even though it is pretty harsh with .357s. I figured, also, that the gun would handle .38 +Ps a bit better.
 

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I voted M85 because it travels with me all day, and sleeps in my bedside table at night. That is when my P-95 or S&W L frame is on duty.
 

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I voted other why restrict yourself to a snub in your nightstand.I would get 4" med frame revolver
 

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I voted for the SP101 because I believe it's more durable than the others and it's within 1.5 oz in weight of the Taurus M85. I realize betraying a Taurus firearm on this forum is probably a cardinal sin, but I have the SP101 and looked into the M85 before buying it and heard stories that the Taurus didn't hold up as well as the Ruger with full magnum loads.
 

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Sorry, I was thinking about the Taurus M605 compared to the SP101 and not the M85. The M85 is probably as durable, if not more, than the Ruger, but I never did check into that model.
 

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Non-Taurus guns are accepted here so no need to worry. Take a gander over to the Other Guns section. Many of us have, shoot and carry non-Taurus firearms. Not many non-gun snobs only shoot 1 brand once they get bit by the shooting bug (available funds not withstanding).

I should add that I don't see the point in getting an SP101 in 38. You might as well get it in 357 as its going to weigh the same.

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Steelheart said:
I should add that I don't see the point in getting an SP101 in 38. You might as well get it in 357 as its going to weigh the same.
I did get the SP101 in .357 caliber. I feel the way the rest do and that is why get a .38 when you can have the .357 for the same price and are able to shoot both?
 

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I voted "other" because my night stand gun is a PT1911 45acp with an XS Bigdot Night sight. The BUG is my 650SS with CT laser grips. :) both of them loaded with Speer Gold Dot ammo.
 

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Sorry, I was thinking about the Taurus M605 compared to the SP101 and not the M85. The M85 is probably as durable, if not more, than the Ruger, but I never did check into that model.
Sorry to burst your bubble but not one snubby out there currently is more durable than the SP101.
 

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Sorry to burst your bubble but not one snubby out there currently is more durable than the SP101.
Read back a couple more posts and you'll see I don't have a bubble about it.

I only wrote that about the M85 because I know nothing about it and was giving it the benefit of the doubt, but I have not yet seen a snubby that compares to the SP101, but I have not seen them all.
 

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Three inch .357 S&W M13 round-butt with Bianchi Lawman grips loaded with .38 +P. It makes more sense than my .38 Taurus 85SSUL because it has another round, will handle .357 ammo, and is still retention friendly. Recoil with .38s is very mild.

On my wife's nightstand it's a four-inch .357 S&W 681 with Crimson Trace grips. It's loaded with .38 +P for the night.

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My night stand has a taurus m44 in it, my main carry gun. Full power loads. Got a pelican LED flashlight next to it. Rather have that than a .38 or .357, but then again the bigger guns fit my hand better.
 

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Like Ace my M44 sits by the bed quite a bit (it's a snub); however, my 608 4" and 651 snub (both 357's) are there a lot as well.
 

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Anybody going to cast a vote for their Rossi?
 
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