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Looking for some suggestions. I've been using a Winchester pump that leaves my shoulder hurting for days sometimes weeks due to an old injury. I know if you're not careful this is a sport that can break the bank. So I'm looking to buy a new shotgun for skeet and maybe some future bird hunting on about a $600 budget.
 

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That price point is going to be tough, so I would suggest looking at a good used shotgun. The issue is the amount of shells fired in a relatively short timeframe. I had an unfortunate experience with a new CZ shotgun that I bought for sporting clays. It was a 12gauge, double barrel, side by side, which I prefer. Sporting clays course is 10 rounds at 10 positions, or 100 rounds in about 2 hours.
The CZ was new, well made, finish was excellent, and it fit me perfectly. Problem was that after 50 rounds or so, the breach heated up and expanded so it became impossible to open the action to eject the spent shells and insert new ones. This happened several times causing me to borrow another shotgun from the club to finish the round.
I wound up selling the CZ and buying a used Beretta and I love it for field or sporting clays. Turkish made CZ’s don’t cut it for me.
 

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When I shot a lot of skeet (years ago), I loaded my own and used lighter loads. Not a lot you can do to reduce shotgun recoil. I still have my Ruger Red Label that I used. I did have the forcing cones extended (can't really say it did a great deal). Some had barrels ported. Not surethat is worth the monet either. A good recoil pad is probably the most cost effective means of really reducing recoil. The gun itself is probably the biggest factor. Can't help as far as recommendations there since I only birdhunt now and then anymore. We may have some shotgunners that can help. Enjoy your skeet hunting, it's a great sport!
 

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My local gun shop has a new semi automatic Mossberg 930 JM Pro priced at just over $600. The semi action should reduce felt recoil and help alleviate your shoulder pain. It's a great looking gun, if I had the money I'd buy one.

 

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There is no better gun at that price than a good used 1100 or even a 1187 with a skeet barrel or a 26 inch rem choke barrel or if you can find a Winchester super x-1 with a IC or skeet barrel
 

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I shot Sporting Clays and Skeet for several years. I bought a Browning Citori Sporting Clays Model but found that it punished me after about 100 rounds and we were shooting about 300 rounds a day. I traded it for a Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon after shooting a friends gun on a trip. The difference between the two is amazing as I could shoot the Beretta all day with no ill effects.
 

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Back in the day I used a Remington 1100. There's a couple of million of them floating around and the recoil is nothing. Any semi-automatic that suits you.


A 20 ga might save you a little recoil and money.
 

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Thanks guys. I've located plenty 1100's on A.list. I'll get back after I've purchased one.
 

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If you are close to me in the obx you can try mine to see if you like it or my super x1
 

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I love my gas gun, Saiga 12 and believe it or not I shoot skeet with it too and its almost like a video game and hard to miss with a red dot sight on it,

I have videos of beginners shooting skeet with this gun even newbies dont miss using it & love it

but back to your recoil issues, I even have an all metal folding stock .....its a gas gun:D look into semiauto's I just showed you mine because of the stock and not so much an issue ....let the piston do the work and absorb the energy at the same time
 

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I love my gas gun, Saiga 12 and believe it or not I shoot skeet with it too and its almost like a video game and hard to miss with a red dot sight on it,

I have videos of beginners shooting skeet with this gun even newbies dont miss using it & love it

but back to your recoil issues, I even have an all metal folding stock .....its a gas gun:D look into semiauto's I just showed you mine because of the stock and not so much an issue ....let the piston do the work and absorb the energy at the same time
Are you shooting "skeet" or are you shooting clay targets in thrown in a field a lot of skeet fields would not allow the Saiga 12 or other home defense/AR/AK looking shotguns. The dynamics of swinging it would be a problem on a real Skeet field. The red dot is no help when you need 3.5 Feet of lead to break a high 4
 

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I love my gas gun, Saiga 12 and believe it or not I shoot skeet with it too and its almost like a video game and hard to miss with a red dot sight on it,

I have videos of beginners shooting skeet with this gun even newbies dont miss using it & love it

but back to your recoil issues, I even have an all metal folding stock .....its a gas gun:D look into semiauto's I just showed you mine because of the stock and not so much an issue ....let the piston do the work and absorb the energy at the same time
I have a Saiga 12, and it is just too heavy of a frame to be an effective skeet gun even if it is a cylinder bore. You want a lightweight frame you can swing quickly with and develop a smooth swing, particularly on doubles coming from both the high and low house with you in the middle. It is just simple physics. The Saiga 12 is a great street clearing weapon and one that can put out a lot of heavy lead.
 

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I use a benelli Nova pump for everything from trap to skeet to field. Interchangeable chokes are crucial as well as shot size and load. The nova pump doesn't seem to me to kick too bad, but there is a dampener you can buy and put in the buttstock. If I'm not mistaken the benelli super Nova already has that feature built in. Both are priced within your budget. I've had mine since they came out in 2001 and I've put down a lot of grouse with it, and won many competitions with it as well.
 

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I have a Saiga 12, and it is just too heavy of a frame to be an effective skeet gun even if it is a cylinder bore. You want a lightweight frame you can swing quickly with and develop a smooth swing, particularly on doubles coming from both the high and low house with you in the middle. It is just simple physics. The Saiga 12 is a great street clearing weapon and one that can put out a lot of heavy lead.
thanks for the physics lesson but you need reading comprehensions lessons
I didnt suggest he use a Saiga 12
I suggest he use a semi auto 12 ga (try a Beretta 390) the point was a gas gun wont hurt his shoulder if a Saiga 12 with steel buttstock wont hurt
 

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I have a Saiga 12, and it is just too heavy of a frame to be an effective skeet gun even if it is a cylinder bore. You want a lightweight frame you can swing quickly with and develop a smooth swing, particularly on doubles coming from both the high and low house with you in the middle. It is just simple physics. The Saiga 12 is a great street clearing weapon and one that can put out a lot of heavy lead.
My K-80 skeet tube set most likely weighs more than the Saiga (10.5 lbs) and it will break targets the barrel forward weight helps smooth out my swing and helps with a good follow through I add 8 ounces to the front of the magazine tube on my 1100 for the same reason and I have multiple 99/100 in doubles events
 
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