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Ok, so I love my Taurus 1911, but It has a major problem. I wanted to replace my sights and so I had taken them off in order to check the size (before I found out that it's a proprietary specially cut size for the Taurus 1911 novak sight, and you can't get other novak style tritium sights to fit it, but I digress) so I put it all back together, and I thought I had it properly re-installed, but then I took her out to shoot this christmas and much to my surprise the rear sight was loose (the set screw was all the way down, but not tight, and the sight was slipping left and right),( the set screw was keeping it from slipping out of the "pocket" and the sight was obviously needing to be tightened).


Anyway I went to find an allen key and cinch it down but the allen key must have been the wrong size and it stripped the inside of the set screw out so bad that even when I did find the correct size set screw it just finished striping it out. Then to compound problems I cannot find a small enough extractor to fit in there. Has anyone had this problem before? I'm contemplating just drilling the whole hole out with a larger dripp bit so I can re thread the hole with a larger set screw

TLDR; how to fix a rear sight with a stripped out set screw?!?!?

P.s. while I'm at it does anyone know of other tritium sights that would fit these novak proprietary sized cuts on the Taurus 1911? I'm also contemplating having a gunsmith re-cut the dovetails to fit a more common "standardized" dovetail cut so I can get sights for half the price of the novak's. (I know the math doesn't make sense (cost more to recut and buy cheaper ones than just cry once and get the novaks) , but it's the principle of painting someone into a corner so they can only buy your sights that pisses me off, I'd almost pay more just to thumb my nose at them.

thanks for any and all help!
 

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I was going to suggest an extractor aka 'Easy Out' but it seems you have already tried that. I would think somebody has to have one small enough to fit.

Don't have anything to offer on the sight issue. Hope you get things figured out.
 

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In the past when I've stripped an Allen head screw I usually can get them out by running a drill bit in reverse. If that doesn't work then I take the next size Allen wrench and tap it in the stripped hole with a hammer and remove it that way.
 

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Novaks are not the only ones who made sights for the PT-1911. I have a set of Heinies that came on mine. Haven't looked in years, but there were Taurus cut sights that were advertised on the Internet. Have you tried to get a rear sight from Taurus?

Probably too late now, but most of those setscrews have Locktite on them and won't move unless you heat them up.

If decide to change them out, I would modify the sight, rather than the slide. Rule #2 of the 1911 is to cut, grind or file the cheaper part first. Better to screw up a sight, rather than a slide.

If all else fails, I would put that rear sight in my drill press and drill out the hole and re-thread the hole for a larger set screw. Also, a little Locktite 242 in the dovetail will help your setscrew prevent it from moving around.
 

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Anybody ever try using these on anything at all? not just gun parts. This is the closest thing I can find to the size of what I'm dealing with.
It's worth a try for that cost. Of course, the wait to get them could be problematic on the fingernails.

I've only had this problem once, and it wasn't with a gun. I just applied lots of WD-40 and kept trying bigger Allen wrenches until I got it loose.
 

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I would try a left hand drill bit I've had good luck with it through the years. I ran into this same problem with Taurus sights and RIA sights. I not understand why there isn't a universal dovetail cut that manufacturers to by. Fusion Firearms says three is a standard but not all companies use it. Fusion Firearms will cut the existing dovetail in your slide front and rear for $68.00 if memory is right. My first PT 1911 I put Novak fiber optic adjustable sights on it but I don't care much for them the front sight blade is too narrow for the rear sight cut out plus if you need to adjust the windage you need to loosen the sight and drift it into position. When I get the money saved up I'LL send it to fusion to be cut and install a set of their sights
Good luck
 
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I would probably try tapping a torx bit in there with a hammer first before drilling, you can always go to the drill as a last resort.
 

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I would probably try tapping a torx bit in there with a hammer first before drilling, you can always go to the drill as a last resort.

Yeah, I'm gonna go for this first, then as a secondary option I'm just gonna drill the hole out and re-tap it. I think if I do that I can pick myself a bolt from the hardware store and use the dremel to make my own set screw by cutting the bolt off, and then putting a flat slot into it. Should make a nice clean over-sized set screw
 

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Novaks are not the only ones who made sights for the PT-1911. I have a set of Heinies that came on mine. Haven't looked in years, but there were Taurus cut sights that were advertised on the Internet. Have you tried to get a rear sight from Taurus? .
got any links on these, the novak sights ar ethe only ones I can find.
 

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The first problem you have is removing the old set screw. you can try tapping in a larger allen or torx but and backing it out or you can dremel a slot in the set screw (and across the rear sight) and ease it out with a standard screwdriver. For the second part, I believe standard Novak dovetails are at 60 degrees with Taurus at either 63 or 67 degrees. You can get a standard novak dovetailed sight to fit with careful reshaping of the dovetail angles. There are also non-tritium sights using Fiber optic tubes that are cut for the Taurus Dovetail. Off the top of my head, Williams Fire Sights and Dawson Precision come to mind.
 

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If you have to drill,just take the head off the screw,no need yo drill the threads out.there should be enough of screw left to turn out with small pliers.But you may have cross threaded the screw.
 

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Left twist bit from Snap-on
 

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I got it off! (phrasing!)

Warning this may be Not Safe for Taurusarmed!

The problem was that the set screw is really small, (too small for even the smallest ez out I could find.) and to add insult to injury the set screw was all the way at the bottom of the hole, bottomed out. I had also already tried the torx bit and got nothing.

I ended up breaking 2 drill bits, a diamond tipped dremel bit, and a small tungsten carbide milling bit (that was expensive), and shattered a metal cutting wheel on my dremel. (FRUSTRATED) So at my wits end, I resorted to the good old fashioned hack saw! (brute force attack) having cut as far down as I could (or would risk) with a hack saw, then drive it out sideways with a hammer and screwdriver (it worked because the cut I made took out the front portion of where the set screw was still attached to the threads. But I saved the slide with 0 damage!!! Shame to waste a $40 Novak sight. but whada-ya-gonna-do!

I already ordered the Williams fire sights, although I'd really rather have a set of tritium sights that are made to fit correctly without having to spend over $100 for the set.



I looked over this list, and It seems to be outdated. I can't seem to find anythign that is not the novak sights that are milled to fit correctly, I'd love to get the correct set of tru glo tritium sights, if they can be found.

If anyone knows of a tritium sight that's under $100 and fits this gun, I'd love to get specific a link from you.
 

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AHH, actually a proper sight will be slightly over sized and need to have material removed to make a proper fit in the dovetail, there by using no type of screw etc to hold the sight in place.
just FYI-- I think dawson precision makes sights for the PT1911 and pretty sure they have the tritium option.
hope this helps you.
 

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I would probably try tapping a torx bit in there with a hammer first before drilling, you can always go to the drill as a last resort.
I've done it with a square bit.....
 
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