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Hi, I bought a millennium pt111 g2 9mm a year ago. It's my first handgun I like it had no problems with it. But, I'm shooting 2"-3" low with it was lower til I found out on this site that I was using the wrong sight picture (cutting the target in half rather than using the front dot). That help raise my shooting up, but I'm still low. After shooting the other day I noticed my support hand was underneath the trigger guard but wasn't pressed hard against it. So my question is it possible getting my support hand up against the trigger guard will help raise my shooting? The gun felt more stable with it pressed higher. Or does the sights need to be adjusted? Being a first time owner I'm thinking it's user error. I lean forward so my weight is on my toes so I don't think I'm leaning on my shot, but I could be wrong. Thanks
 

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There could be a number of factors causing this, including the gun. Usually it is the shooter. I've been shooting for years but I still face similar issues at times, especially with a new gun. What I would suggest if you can is to shoot it off of a solid rest. Take your time and aim carefully, adjusting your sight picture if need be. If your hitting on center then it's not the gun but it also will help to build your confidence. I don't know how much shooting you do in general but I find shooting a lot works these this out. You're on the right track changing things up. If you put enough rounds downrange I'll bet you will correct it!

Also welcome to the forum! If you are new at shooting, stick around. There is a ton of expertise around here and they are always happy to help a new comer.
 

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It's a common thing with compact pistols and the G2 tends to magnify the issues due to its design. Frequently it's low and left.... Fortunately you only have the one issue to work on. It is something that will take practice and as long as you get range time on a regular basis you'll be fine....
This winter I haven't been there since October so by the time I can get back I'll be trying to regain my form.
 

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It's a common thing with compact pistols and the G2 tends to magnify the issues due to its design. Frequently it's low and left.... Fortunately you only have the one issue to work on. It is something that will take practice and as long as you get range time on a regular basis you'll be fine....
This winter I haven't been there since October so by the time I can get back I'll be trying to regain my form.
It may have something to do with how far back the trigger breaks on the PT111 G2. It took me quite a few (several hundred) rounds to actually get used to it and since I have not shot it in a while...

I'll bet I will be shooting low and left when I take it out to the range again.;)
 

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Just a guess but perhaps it's a combination of stance, grip and anticipation of trigger break.

I've always had a tendency to drop the muzzle ever so slightly as I try to roll the trigger smoothly. And, of course, there's my wobble :( :D
 

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300 or so but I do a lot more dry firing with snap caps. Easier with lil kids lol
Nothing wrong with dry fire practice! As I said below, the trigger on the PT111 G2 breaks real far back. This can be a problem for people with larger hands and will tend to amplify the tendency of short barrel pistols to be harder to shoot accurately. It took me several hundred rounds to get used to it. I think I have medium/large hands for a guy.

Of course, this may not be part of your problem at all, but it is something that has been noted by several people about the PT111 G2. It usually causes right handed shooters to not only be low, but also left. Left handed shooters tend to be low and right.

Put some more rounds down range with these things in mind and maybe you will find your answer! :)
 

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Your welcome. Welcome aboard! I know the deal with kids, I've been training mine with airsoft in the garage. Mine are 11 and 14.

I find that I shoot mine better rapidly as opposed to slow....I think concentrating on technique causes issues to magnify.

Keep us posted how things go.
 

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Your welcome. Welcome aboard! I know the deal with kids, I've been training mine with airsoft in the garage. Mine are 11 and 14.

I find that I shoot mine better rapidly as opposed to slow....I think concentrating on technique causes issues to magnify.

Keep us posted how things go.
To a point I think I can agree, that is... after the first shot. The same is true when I practice with my Laserlyte training cartridge.

However, technique is ESSENTIAL if you want to get that first shot off accurately. For me, that can only be accomplished by practicing the basics, over and over and over again.

As I said in another post in a different thread, if I don't actually shoot live rounds at least once a month (especially with certain handguns), I feel that I lose my edge and have to retrain myself on the basics of shooting well with that gun.

While I don't think you meant to undercut the basic fundamentals of shooting accurately, I can also see where someone new to shooting would take it that way.:rolleyes:
 

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The PT111 G2 is an odd trigger and when I'm at the range I actually find I shoot better drawing from the holster, bringing the gun up quickly and squeezing of the shots rapidly. I don't conciously focus on technique or sight alignment....I use just the front sight and focus mostly on the target.

Since I consider this a mostly defensive gun I practice that way. I'm mostly looking for minute of bad guy accuracy and this works.
 

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The PT111 G2 is an odd trigger and when I'm at the range I actually find I shoot better drawing from the holster, bringing the gun up quickly and squeezing of the shots rapidly. I don't conciously focus on technique or sight alignment....I use just the front sight and focus mostly on the target.

Since I consider this a mostly defensive gun I practice that way. I'm mostly looking for minute of bad guy accuracy and this works.
Fundamentals...:)
 

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Walshy...Here's a good DIY pistol rest:

 

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Shooters are usually pretty friendly, so maybe next time either ask the range master to try it (usually they are fairly skilled) or watch the other targets and find the best shot there and ask them to try your gun. See how they do with it.
 

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CaptainMorgan, you might have something there. The end of November, I had a pumpkin in the field behind the house. My sister wanted to shoot it. Before she came over I shot at it. Just getting the front sight sharp, level, and in the middle. Then in the middle of the blurry orange pumpkin. Then shooting. Had a 4 or 5 inch hole punched out right in the middle. My gf was in the house and said the shots were fast like one a second. Might be trying to hard at aiming at the target.
 

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Try this
At appox 2 to 3 ft below a paper plate (target ) at 30ft start raising your pistol while pulling your trigger , you will automatically pull the trigger at the same time your sights get on target

The faster your pistol raises the faster your finger will pull the trigger



Your eyes are telling your brain to tell your finger to pull

Try it dry firing
 

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After adjusting my rear sight I was still shooting way low. What helped me was moving my finger farther back instead of using the crease. I'm still shooting slightly left, but I'll work on that next.
 
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