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Hooray for common sense!


http://www2.scnow.com/news/2012/mar...ill-allowing-guns-restaurants-bar-ar-3505617/

COLUMBIA, SC --
The South Carolina House gave its final approval Thursday to a bill that would allow concealed weapon permit holders to carry their guns into bars and restaurants that serve alcohol, as long as they don't drink.

"We are one of only six states that do not allow you to carry into a restaurant that serves alcohol and the other 44 states are having no issues with people that do carry in," says Rep. Mike Pitts, R-Laurens, the main sponsor of the bill and a formerGreenvillepolice officer.

Restaurants and bars would still be able to post signs saying concealed weapons are not allowed. The bill would also require a CWP holder to leave if asked to do so by the owner or manager of the restaurant.

Pitts says he agrees that alcohol and gunpowder don't mix, which is why a CWP holder who drinks would be subject to jail time of up to two years, a fine of up to $2,000 and the loss of his permit.

"You don't really want people sitting in the bar drinking and carrying a weapon," he says. "But I shouldn't be prohibited, as a law-abiding citizen and a concealed weapons permitee, from going into an Applebee's with my family and having to leave my firearm in the vehicle."

Scott MacRae, co-owner of Yesterday's restaurant and tavern inColumbia's Five Points, says, "Most people that would have their permits would be responsible enough to act responsible and not drink if they were carrying their weapon. Sounds pretty reasonable to me."

The final vote in the House on the bill was 90 to 5. Rep. Terry Alexander, D-Florence, says he's against the whole idea of people being allowed to carry concealed weapons. "Just the idea that someone can carry a gun on a restaurant's property, go in and get drunk and have the gun right there in front of them," he says.

Rep. Pitts says there have been cases in other states where CWP holders were not allowed to have their guns inside restaurants and the results were deadly. "Where multiple shootings occurred in a restaurant and people that were shot and killed had concealed weapons permits and their gun was in their car," he says. "They could not return fire."

Virginiapassed a similar law that took effect on July 1, 2010. An analysis of Virginia State Police crime data by the Richmond Times-Dispatch found that major crimes involving guns at bars and restaurants that serve alcohol decreased by 5.2 percent in the first year after the law took effect.

The South Carolina bill, H3665, now goes to the state Senate.
 

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I hope North Carolina is next in line to overturn the ban on firearms in restaurants
that serve alcohol. Our legislature tried to get this through as part of the expansion
of the Castle Doctrine but it was left off of the final bill that our governor signed.
I'm happy for South Carolina gunowners and hopefully our legislature will push
through a similar law in North Carolina this summer.
 

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I hope North Carolina is next in line to overturn the ban on firearms in restaurants
that serve alcohol. Our legislature tried to get this through as part of the expansion
of the Castle Doctrine but it was left off of the final bill that our governor signed.
I'm happy for South Carolina gunowners and hopefully, our legislature will push
through a similar law in North Carolina this summer.
I agree but also want to see the law changed that prohibits a citizen from carrying a weapon off ones property during a declared state of emergency. The NCDOJ is holding classes for the CCH Trainers to clarify the changes to the laws concerning the Castle Doc. and other parts of the CCH laws and I,m going to the one in Winston Salem this Wed. Hopefully I can get some questions answered that have come up recently.
 

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Glad to see it passed. As far as it happening in NC, don't hold your breath NC and SC are very different...
 

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So if it goes to the Senate, then it's still not a done deal, right? Or is there just a high confidence it will pass? I don't want to get my hopes up too early.
 

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You never know, I don't think it is a done deal but I am hoping.

You can keep up with a lot of SC gun legislation here: GrassRoots South Carolina - Our Goal: Citizens carrying arms whenever and wherever they choose.
And here is the idiot that proposed the amendment that screws up H.3292.
Rep. Thad Viers arrested on harassment charge - WMBFNews.com, Myrtle Beach/Florence SC, Weather
Some of what he proposes is already addressed in other laws.
Bet he is a Democrat, if he isn't, we need to get him out of the State Legislature.

Never mind, he resigned.
Thad Viers Resigns from Office, Says He's Being Indicted | wltx.com
I wonder if that kills his proposed ammendment?
 

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hope it passes . cc from mich to sc in feb for 4 week's vacation. sure was a headache in sc every time we went to eat had to disarm and leave in car locked in a secure box. that bill is a blessing. don't now how you guy's cc in that state with that old law. mich is voting on the right to carry in pistol free zone, if you have 9 extra hours of training. sure would help when you go from a parking garage to a ball game in detroit.
 
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