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well throwing some wood on the fire here--1911--half cock notch (if you want to carry it hammer down) and if series 80 then firing pin block.
I am not sure there is a more fool proof semi auto out there than a modern 1911 to be honest, course i carry mine cocked and locked.
When I carry my 1911, I use a Galco Fletch with a thumbbreak strap. Strap goes between cocked hammer and slide. Just an added layer of safety.
 

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well throwing some wood on the fire here--1911--half cock notch (if you want to carry it hammer down) and if series 80 then firing pin block.
I am not sure there is a more fool proof semi auto out there than a modern 1911 to be honest, course i carry mine cocked and locked.
Yeah, I don't carry series 80s. Only series 70 and cocked and locked. And I agree, the 1911 wouldn't have lasted as long as it has if there wasn't a reason. I wonder what the record of all safety accidents would reveal about the model since its inception. GLOCK leg is a well known malady and most of us daily carriers understand why. But I've never had even anything close to a non intentional firing of a 1911. Many people don't pay any attention to the grip safety but it is what prevents discharge of the gun if dropped while cocked and thumb safety off - so called inertia fire. Seriously, unload your 1911 (including the round in your chamber) cock the hammer, take the thumb safety off and then try to pull the trigger while holding the gun only by the grips but no pressure on the grip safety. You can't do it. Don't care how hard you pull the trigger it will not fall with no pressure on grip safety. That is why it's there and the reason the US Army insisted Browning put two safeties on the gun.
 
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I prefer guns without a safety. If I am carrying a gun with a safety it is off. Regardless of what I am carrying (safety or no safety) when I practice I include sweeping the safety off, even if the gun does not have one. Just incase the safety gets bumped on. Often I am seen sweeping the safety off on a gun that does not have one. To me it is about muscle memory and in a stressed situation I may not remember if my gun that day has a safety or not.
I presume you are talking about carrying a 1911 with the thumb safety off but with hammer down. No way would I ever carry any 1911 with a chambered round, hammer cocked but thumb safety off. And, for those who haven't thought about it, the Taurus MilPro line is a SA to DA model - it's striker is cocked when racked and in SA mode - thus the thumb safety. The PT140 and PT145 were the first semiauto pistols I bought and have always activated the thumb safety when chambering a round. But they have a DA action with second strike capability. If the shot fails to fire with first trigger pull you can continue pulling the trigger over and over without"recocking". I've heard some here mention that they don't have the second strike capability and I've never understood why unless they have a first generation MilPro.

It's what I like about a decocked hammer gun. No matter if I'm carrying one of my revolvers or an auto, one long squeeze of a DA trigger gets it into action. <img src="http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/images/smilies/gr_grin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cheesy" class="inlineimg" />
I like DA/SAs too. Sig practically cornered the market on these before striker fired autos became popular. Taurus' 800 series should have competed well with these but not sure if Taurus still pushes the 800s anymore. I will say having the decocker mounted on the frame made it easier to access than the "Beretta like" slide mounted decockers.
. My current carry is a TH9c ....basically the 800 series renamed.

I still have my two favorite Ruger P guns and still carry the kp90dc occasionally. In .45, the pt145 is lighter and more compact, but the safety is small and stiff. I've thought about carrying it safety off, but that just makes me nervous. Besides, that TH9c shoots where I look and I like about every thing about it.
 

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PT709m - chambered, safety on
LCP - chambered, DA only so....
PT92 - chambered, decocked, safety on

only takes a little practice to sweep the safety off so that movement becomes automatic
 
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. My current carry is a TH9c ....basically the 800 series renamed.

I still have my two favorite Ruger P guns and still carry the kp90dc occasionally. In .45, the pt145 is lighter and more compact, but the safety is small and stiff. I've thought about carrying it safety off, but that just makes me nervous. Besides, that TH9c shoots where I look and I like about every thing about it.
Does your PT145 have second strike capability as I mentioned?
 

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Does your PT145 have second strike capability as I mentioned?
Yes, the PT-145 does have second strike capability. It converts to double action if the round does not ignite, so you could pull the trigger 5 or 6 times if that's what it took to get the round to fire. (Although I'm used to "Tap, Rack, Bang" and really can't imagine any situation where I'd just keep pulling the trigger on a FTF.) However, there's no decocker, so you can't intentionally put it in double action with a round in the chamber.

My own PT-145 doesn't have a super stiff safety, so sweeping it to off on the draw stroke is no problem. I agree with NativeTexan that I would be uncomfortable with the idea of carrying that pistol with a chambered round and the safety off. To me, it would feel like carrying a 1911 cocked and unlocked (and with no grip safety, to boot).
 

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I don't carry a 1911, if I did I guess it would be cocked and locked.
I very, very seldom carry one of my 1911 now either, its the Sig 365 or the CZ P-01.
but every once in a while I get that urge after watching a John Wayne movie.
I must admit the lil Officer model alloy frame Springer or the alloy framed Para commander does carry very well, which is what i bought them for.
 

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.... every once in a while I get that urge after watching a John Wayne movie. ...
You mean that you don't have that urge all of the time?:eek:

Bless. Your. Heart.


Next thing I know, you'll be telling me that you have flipped past She Wore A Yellow Ribbon or The Searchers.:eek:
 

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You mean that you don't have that urge all of the time?:eek:

Bless. Your. Heart.


Next thing I know, you'll be telling me that you have flipped past She Wore A Yellow Ribbon or The Searchers.:eek:
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Really I am more of a John Belushi fan to be honest!
 

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Whenever I draw my handgun, I sweep the safety off. Even if the firearm doesn't even HAVE a safety, my thumb goes through the motion. If I am in extremis I do not want to worry about whether I need to take that step, so I just train to do it.
I agree with you on that sentiment 100%
I only carry condition one, so I train to drop my thumb safety on the draw so when I draw I don't worry about it because I know it won't be on with how often I train, its all muscle memory now
 

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If I carry a "Hammer Gun" safety is on, No hammer, safety off. My muscle memory always sweeps the safety tab on the draw so I guess it really doesn't really matter. Oh, Always one in the chamber.
 
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