i have 2 new 9mm but have not fired them yet.i am going this saturday but have you read the manual? seem like i remember seeing that in there.
Safety concern
Hi to all...this is my first post and I am glad to have found a good Taurus forum. Thanks to all who have made it possible!
I have a concern about the safety on the 24/7 Pro .45...I don't know if this relates to all of them or just mine but thought it needed to be out there.
When engaging the safety after a round is fired, the trigger must be FULLY released or the weapon will still fire in the single action mode with the safety on. I found this out while making myself familiar with the gun at home. Not loaded of course! I tested this with an empty loaded with a primer and the primer fired.
I am not saying the gun is unsafe but this needs to be recognized and learned in order to avoid an accident. Again I do not know if this concerns just my weapon or others too.
If you want to try this, drop the magazine and check to make sure the gun is unloaded (I know, I know but ya have to say it) . Pull and release the slide. Holding the trigger partially back, engage the safety. Now try to pull the trigger. Mine will discharge.
Hopefully this is just mine but let me know. I can just see someone firing a few shots and engaging the safety with the finger still putting a little pressure on the trigger and thinking the gun is safe.
Please let me know if this is just my gun or not.
Thanks!
I have a concern about the safety on the 24/7 Pro .45...I don't know if this relates to all of them or just mine but thought it needed to be out there.
When engaging the safety after a round is fired, the trigger must be FULLY released or the weapon will still fire in the single action mode with the safety on. I found this out while making myself familiar with the gun at home. Not loaded of course! I tested this with an empty loaded with a primer and the primer fired.
I am not saying the gun is unsafe but this needs to be recognized and learned in order to avoid an accident. Again I do not know if this concerns just my weapon or others too.
If you want to try this, drop the magazine and check to make sure the gun is unloaded (I know, I know but ya have to say it) . Pull and release the slide. Holding the trigger partially back, engage the safety. Now try to pull the trigger. Mine will discharge.
Hopefully this is just mine but let me know. I can just see someone firing a few shots and engaging the safety with the finger still putting a little pressure on the trigger and thinking the gun is safe.
Please let me know if this is just my gun or not.
Thanks!
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is this with minimal pressure on the trigger? otherwise, if you are talking while fully depressed then it is sort of a weird situation.
No the manual wasn't with the gun and tough I have downloaded it from the Taurus website and read most of it I missed that. Still I imagine there are alot of people who don't read the manual. I have been guilty of that on more than 1 occasion but usually because there was none available.
This is just a heads up "just in case".....
This is just a heads up "just in case".....
Lets assume that the gun has been fired and there is a round in the chamber. If the safety is applied while the trigger is fully or partially back from the last round being fired the gun wil fire again with the next pull. Mabye this clarifies a little better. I love this gun and don't consider this to be a fault just something to be aware of.
Yeah, I understand. However, I dont think that one should apply the safety under those conditions. In fact, it should be common knowledge to not even have your finger on the trigger unless you have full intentions of shooting whatever your weapon is pointed at. Im sure the manual does state this.
I do appreciate your find though. It is important, and maybe taurus, and other weapons manufactures, should cover this basis to cover things better. In any case... good to know.
I do appreciate your find though. It is important, and maybe taurus, and other weapons manufactures, should cover this basis to cover things better. In any case... good to know.
I agree whole heartedly with that. I certainly would never have found this issue out under normal circumstances. I would never normaly have my finger in the trigger guard while not engaging a target or while applying the safety. However whenever I aquire a new gun I unload and disassemble, familiarize myself with the parts and then put it back together. Then I usually try everything except force to see if the safety has limitations. I realize the only true safety is the user, but it is nice to know a safety devices' limitations and peculiarities.
Thanks for a great forum and I look foreward to learning more about a few of the Taurus guns I am not familiar with.
Thanks for a great forum and I look foreward to learning more about a few of the Taurus guns I am not familiar with.
That is scary. I read the manual. Nowhere does it mention this point. Maybe you should give a call to Taurus CS and confirm it.oldboyer said:When engaging the safety after a round is fired, the trigger must be FULLY released or the weapon will still fire in the single action mode with the safety on.
Note to Mods: Let's make this thread sticky(?) so that others are aware of it.
Edit: Sorry my mistake. It's on page 19 of the online manual.
I have read both the pistol and revolver manual's repeatedly, and everytime I do I find that I skimmed over something, or did not remember it exactly as written.
Then you find out that some of the manuals actually have not been updated for several years (+P ammo) for recent manufactured, I believe since 2005 all are +P rated. "of course you always use those at your own risk".
Then you find out that some of the manuals actually have not been updated for several years (+P ammo) for recent manufactured, I believe since 2005 all are +P rated. "of course you always use those at your own risk".
Look at how your safety and trigger work, on the MilPro's the left side of the frame has a tab that comes up and moves with the trigger. I'm sure the safety drops, not allowing it to come all the way back and fire. Now if you pull the trigger past the point where the safety comes down to engage, then of course it will still have that last bit of it's range of motion allowing it to fire.
Use it as it's intended, finger off the trigger before you engage the safety.
Use it as it's intended, finger off the trigger before you engage the safety.
Glocks will do the same thing, oh wait they dont have a safety so the only time it will fire is if you put your booger picker on the bang button so either way you will be fine, it was brought up a long time ago on other forums before this one got started and anti Taurus people jumped all over it as a reason Taurus sucks, if your putting the safety on while your still holding the trigger thats a no no and you need more gun training, 2. just becuase you engage the safety doesnt mean you can play around with the trigger and think its perfectly safe because the saftey is on, you should never put your finger there till your ready to shoot and at that point you should have taken the safety off anyway, sorry for the rand but I had it out with a few Taurus bashers about this a long time ago on another board and it still gets to me that people think this is a major defect
i thought i seen it in there some wherebaryon said:That is scary. I read the manual. Nowhere does it mention this point. Maybe you should give a call to Taurus CS and confirm it.
Note to Mods: Let's make this thread sticky(?) so that others are aware of it.
Edit: Sorry my mistake. It's on page 19 of the online manual.
I noticed this fairly early on after reading about someone with an ND with the safety on. I'd prefer that the safety would block the firing pin rather than simply prevent the trigger from pulling if it's in the right position, but as others mention, following the rules will keep you safe!
I've also seen mentioned that this is listed in the manual, but no one's posted what actually IS in the manual, so here goes:
"By moving the safety upward you will block the firing
mechanism.
Keep the safety on while not using the pistol.
WARNING: To properly apply the manual safety lever, the
trigger must be in its forward-most position, otherwise the
lever can be moved upwards, but will not be fully engaged.
Keep your finger off the trigger while moving the lever
upward."
I've also seen mentioned that this is listed in the manual, but no one's posted what actually IS in the manual, so here goes:
"By moving the safety upward you will block the firing
mechanism.
Keep the safety on while not using the pistol.
WARNING: To properly apply the manual safety lever, the
trigger must be in its forward-most position, otherwise the
lever can be moved upwards, but will not be fully engaged.
Keep your finger off the trigger while moving the lever
upward."
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