Rookie needs HELP! Gun sizes? Holsters?

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Robby

Discussion Starter · Feb 1, 2008

If you read this forum, you know I have a Rossi 461, 357, 6 rd. I have had much advice about holsters, some might have helped, some might not have helped. The reason being Gun Frame Sizes.
You hear D,J,K,L,N and some say Rossi is a D size others say it is bigger than a J, but smaller than K.
Rossi's site says it is a small frame, but the 971 is a medium frame, and only difference is barrel length.
I ordered a J Frame holster, one ordering mistake!!! The top frame is quite a bit wider than the J holster, It would not even go in, and the only K Frame they make is for a 4" barrel. SO I called Rossi direct.

Did I get an answer, well yes and know. (It seems like all the people who really know anything are in Lost Wages, for the Shot Show.) But they could tell me the Frame is an RJ, and it is small frame. Now I am more confused than I was before. Here is another size and report that it is a SMALL FRAME!

I am about to start a new job, next week! Just to pay off what I have already spent on guns! (thats really a lie, I am helping out a niece and hubby starting a new business, and they are gonna pay me. If I can sell anything that is!!)

But to make a short story longer,

Has anyone heard of a gun frame RJ size, or has anyone found a cheap holster that fits the 357 Rossi Snubby. I am not shorting some of the earlier advice on this but looking for more help if possible.

Oh, just for interest, I know I can get a CHEAP almost fit type from Uncle Mikes, and I do not have a $100 or more to spend on holsters for the darn thing.

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Robby

Discussion Starter · #2 · Feb 3, 2008

Robby said:
Rossi's site says it is a small frame, but the 971 is a medium frame, and only difference is barrel length. I called Rossi direct.
they could tell me the Frame is an RJ, and it is small frame. Now I am more confused than I was before. Here is another size and report that it is a SMALL FRAME!

Has anyone heard of a gun frame RJ size, or has anyone found a cheap holster that fits the 357 Rossi Snubby. I am not shorting some of the earlier advice on this but looking for more help if possible.

You might wonder why I am quoting my own post, and cutting it back! Finally got my former LEO son, to get his Ruger SP101 357, and holster out.
The frame size is almost what the Rossi is, but of course the Rossi, 461 357 is 6 rd, larger cylinder. But I did find that the Galco, clamshell holster, that he has will fit the Rossi. Yeah his might be a little stretched over the years, but it holds tight, and you can draw with no Problem. Also if you like the Fobus line of holsters, they do have a line for the Ruger SP101 that probably will fit the Rossi.

Now I have to figure out if it is better to spend $70 for the Galco, or $40 for the Fobus.
Here is the Galco OWB that I looked at, one belt, one paddle.
SPEED MASTER HIGH RIDE BELT HOLSTER $72.50
SPEED PADDLE HOLSTER $69.95
RUGER - SP101 2 1/4"
Fobus has Ruger SP101, ROTO-HOLSTER™ PADDLE $34.99

I am positive, Bianchi, and others make a holster for the Ruger that would fit the Rossi. But that Galco, sure looks nice, wish I was richer, I would get both.

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grouchy hippo

· #3 · Feb 3, 2008

I'm not very knowledgeable about these things but since no one seems to be answering you except yourself I will comment that since you ask about gun sizes and holsters that I would suggest that if you have a big gun get a big holster but if you have a small gun get a small holster.

Robby

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 3, 2008

grouchy hippo said:
I'm not very knowledgeable about these things but since no one seems to be answering you except yourself I will comment that since you ask about gun sizes and holsters that I would suggest that if you have a big gun get a big holster but if you have a small gun get a small holster.

From you I got just what I expected!!

If your GUN is big, you need a BIG holster, yeah right!!

If I follow that thread, then if I have a long gun, I need a LONG holster, Right??

grouchy hippo

· #5 · Feb 3, 2008

Well no one else would answer you.

Robby

Discussion Starter · #6 · Feb 3, 2008

grouchy hippo said:
Well no one else would answer you.

I guess you know by now, I never get upset. :???: I enjoy a good laugh anytime I can get it.

That is why I like it here, mostly everyone enjoys fun, and information equally. ;D

grouchy hippo

· #7 · Feb 5, 2008

Dang, it's been three days now and you and I are the only ones who have posted in this thread. And I don't know anything about holsters.

Course there be them that says I don't know anything about anything.

I don't know about that.

LKNIZ

· #8 · Feb 19, 2008

Just received a Desantis "Super Fly" pocket holster for my 461 and it is too tight for the cylinder area. I just saw these posts after I ordered. Most holster web sites I have visited don't even acknowledge Rossi revolvers.Rossi calls small which matches with S&W "small or J frame,but those are five rounds in the cylinder ,not six as ours are.

LKNIZ

· #9 · Feb 19, 2008

Update on DeSantis "Superfly " holster Customer service said holster is nylon and will stretch can use with 461 it did fit in , I just thought tight and didn't want to tear and get nothing back.
I did get a High Noon custom built holster for a Beretta 92 FS Vertec and it too was tight at first and came with instructions to loosen the holster.Which is getting better with use.

Robby

Discussion Starter · #10 · Feb 19, 2008

LKNIZ said:
Update on DeSantis "Superfly " holster Customer service said holster is nylon and will stretch can use with 461 it did fit in , I just thought tight and didn't want to tear and get nothing back.
I did get a High Noon custom built holster for a Beretta 92 FS Vertec and it too was tight at first and came with instructions to loosen the holster.Which is getting better with use.

Yeah, on the nylon holsters, I have an IWB nylon that fits my PT111, and for the time being I been putting the Rossi in it for pocket carry. Of course it is swallowed by that holster, but I am not carrying off the farm yet.

I take my CCW training March 4, and will probably have it in a couple months after that. I wanted this guy's classes, he only takes 12 per class, compared to others local that have 40 in a class. He trains for 3 or 4 states CCW, even non resident ones.

If your not sure about the actual size of the Rossi, 461 6 rd, they told me it was an RJ, small frame, but the frame size is just about equal to the Ruger sp101, with a slightly larger cylinder.

smooth1

· #11 · Feb 23, 2008

Fist makes holsters for the 461/462
http://www.fist-inc.com/holsters/gunlistA/Default.htm

Robby

Discussion Starter · #12 · Mar 6, 2008

smooth1 said:
Fist makes holsters for the 461/462
http://www.fist-inc.com/holsters/gunlistA/Default.htm

I loved most their line, but then I was thinking of getting similar holsters for my PT111 and the Rossi 461, I went with, Don Hume First Agent (H710) Holster for both of them. No learning curve, for different carry gun. Also the price was right (yeah I am a broke old SOB). Less than $60 for two holsters including shipping.
I did order a $25 Fobus paddle for carry on the farm that should fit the Rossi, again I have the same one for the PT111, so no relearning how the gun rides and pulls.

Cimarron

· #13 · Mar 7, 2008

Holster items are addressed in the carry section, therefore I am moving this thread. Hope it generates more respoinse there

45 Forever

· #14 · Mar 8, 2008

Robby stop think this thing through. I have holsters that the guy at the store said was the right
size for a S&W 686 4 inch I don't know were he got his info from but wasn't even close. so I took the gun in a locked gun case to the local gun store and tried a bunch of holsters till I was satisfied and believe it or not the best one was also the cheapest it was a nylon holster that could be worn strong side or cross draw exactly what I wanted. simple answer do the same.

Robby

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 8, 2008

Yeah, I have been thru three local shops. The first one was loaded with holsters, but the place was filthy, the packages on the holsters were too, the prices were full retail, and I spent two hours looking thru them to try to find something that would work and I could afford.

The other two shops, the prices were right, 10 to 20% off of retail, but no stock or virtually no stock. :???: They would order, but the wait was a month to 3 months depending on the model, but I could not try anything to assure the sizes would fit.

:deadhorse:
I did buy a cheapy, IWB for my PT111, $12 bucks.

Finally, after much help here, I went to several sites that had some that definitely would fit, to cover both my carry guns, would have cost me about $150 or more. :shooter: :bang:
I went to Don Hume site, they had stock items that will work, fit tight to the body, and only cost me $58 total for two leather holsters. Sure they might not hold up as long as a Galco, or a custom made from one of the GA, or Texas outfits. But I think they will work for me until I get some money in later this spring. Uncles little rebate might get spent!!!
Funny part of this is I had looked at this style earlier but due to size of the Rossi being between a J and a K, "RJ according to Rossi" I was not sure they would fit. Then I found out the size is close to the 66,65,905 Taurus, by comparing what holsters fit them and just a shorter barrel. They have a PT111 Pro model in the same holster. Don Hume First Agent (H710) Holster :clap: :yipee: To hedge my bet, I did order a Fobus TA85 which is supposed to fit the newer Rossi's
So I get what I want (I hope) and the same setup for both guns. No retention, no thumb snap, and a tight fit. I think your better to have the same type holster for your carry guns if possible, so your draw, and reholster is going to be the same no matter which your carrying. :guns:

They should be here by first of the week, so if you hear a scream of agony, they did not work. :soapbox:

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45 Forever

· #16 · Mar 8, 2008

Dude Kentucky needs more gun stores I was just trying to help ya out because I've pulled my hair out :bang: trying to get somthing that should be simple. I have different types of holsters because I have a wide range of guns to chose from. During the summer I might carry a 38 Taurus in a pocket holster in cargo shorts fall XD-9 IWB winter Taurus 45 1911 OWB, Driving 357 in crossdraw
I practice with all my guns I LIKE SHOOTING

so I don't have to worry about were i'm drawing from

I seem to hit anything I want depending on the gun and its capabilities

I couldn't find a 45 bore snake anywere in Nashville I bet I spent $50 bucks in gas to find one at a gunshow for $10 bucks. Just the nature of our Hobby

I once paid $125.00 :bang: for a outside extractor instaled by my gunsmith on an old but vary good Llama 45 that thing was a tack driver people were amazed at how it shot. so be prepared to pull out more hair the more guns you own oh and you will never own enough

Robby

Discussion Starter · #17 · Mar 8, 2008

Actually, I try to stay out of OHIO!! Which has a few stores. I stopped running all over the place, when gas stays over $3 per gallon. It is cheaper to shop either local, 10 mile radius, or go online.

Sorry to any buckeyes, but I lived there for about 20 years.

I do not go back accross the river, even to find a holster.

Robby

Discussion Starter · #18 · Mar 10, 2008

You would think that a 2 1/2" barreled 6 rd revolver holster from a major manufacturer, would be no problem. They list several for Rossi, but no 2 1/2", and only the 38 5 rd models, as I found out again they do not fit a 6 rd gun. So I am returning once more my purchase from Fobus. Well it only costs me about $1.80 to return it. My Don Hume holsters have not come in yet,

I am off to the post office again tomorrow to do returns to Fobus. Hopefully the one guy I have talked to there will be able to get me some positive information by return email soon.

I am frustrated, but really not that upset with them, I learned long ago, screaming at people may make you feel better, but the other person will not even attempt to help you now or in the future.

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