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I have a Taurus .38 special which is o.k. for carrying although I don't carry it often. However I'd like to get a revolver (in the taurus family) which allows for: a defensive caliber, yet still long enough to be a good target pistol but with the option of carrying from time to time. This combination may not exist, but to those wiser than I, any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 

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You're probably looking for a 4in .357mag, either Tracker ot model 66 should do fine. 608 is also an option but it's an 8-shooter and therefor the size of a 44mag...

For hunting or if you want better accuracy something with 6"barrel + would be better...
 

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My M66 3" is easier to carry IWB than my 4", lighter, quicker out of the holster, and about the same size, actually, as my SP101 in the frame. Yet, the 3" barrel allows for a longer sight radius, better accuracy, and slightly better ballistics, though in .38 it's not significant.

I'd say a 3" medium frame or even a M85 small frame gun would fit the bill in .38 special. I have a 3" M68 old Rossi that shoots 2" 25 yard groups. I can't shoot better than about 3" with a 2" barrel do to the short sight radius. Once you get to 3", you get a gun that's plenty range worthy, yet carries a lot easier than a 4" gun IWB.

JMHO, of course, but I just sold my 2.25" SP101 and if I replace it in the future, it'll be with a 3 1/16" version. It's no pocket gun, anyway, too heavy.
 

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Depends on the type of use.

.38 Specials can be shot in .357 magnum revolvers, but not the other way around.

Since you are familiar with .38 Special is there a need for .357 magnum power needed? Most things the .38 Special can do well if magnum power is not needed. .357 magnum power is nice to have if needed, but is it?


If budget is of the essence then a Rossi 971/972 in .357 magnum or the 851 in .38 Special woud fit the bill. Rossi belongs to Taurus so there's some advantage to this.

There are the Taurus 82 in .38 Special, fixed sights, and in blue or stainless steel. Just appropriated on myself in the last week. Haven't wrung it out yet. Four inch barrel on this puppy. Nice easy light trigger pull. In DA or SA.

Then there's the model 65, fixed sight revolver, in .357 magnum. Follow that up with the model 66 adjustable sight,blue or stainless steel. Can be had in 4 or 6 inch barrel. Model 66 comes as a 7 shooter over the others that have only 6. Might not make a difference to you.

There are 7 shot speedloaders, but are a bit harder to carry and hide for CCW carry.

If hunting is a top priority then the Tracker 627 .357 versions should be looked at. 28 ounces and are ported.These were designed with hunting in mind, primarily. Easier and lighter to pack than some of the other.357s.

Model 66 or 65s can serve the same purpose as the Trackers. Just minor differences in weight, type of sights, and cartridge count.

Last, but least is the 608. 8 shots. No speedloader made for this big boy. Unless it might be a Maxfire one.

Here's the take on the Taurus .357 magnums inthe form of links. Yes, deer can be handled with the .357 magnum. Even some blackbear if done right. Bob Milek, and avid outdoor hunter and gun writer,wrote about hunting with the.357 magnum for deer and bear decades ago.
Dr.Topper and one of the current "Combat Handguns "and "Handguns" writers also have articles on hunting with the .357 magnum. Granted the 158gr,165gr.,170gr., and 180gr. loads were used.
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=1098.0
http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/index.php?topic=7052.0
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This is a compilation of revolver models. Not total but thorough. There's at least 1 link for every model Taurus and Rossi make that's under discussion here.
 

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Thanks Qwiks, it is extremely thorough and really gives me an idea of what there is to offer.
 

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Glad to be of service.

As important as something like this is it's best to have the whole story. Even if it reads like Tolstoy's "War and Peace". LOL

Catalogs are nice, but feedback from other actual owners is even more important.
 

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Wow...that is some great info ...Qwiks... ;)

gunfun...I have a Tracker 4" , it is pretty much all around for me..
and it is sweet to shoot..
 

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gunfun1002 said:
I have a Taurus .38 special which is o.k. for carrying although I don't carry it often. However I'd like to get a revolver (in the taurus family) which allows for: a defensive caliber, yet still long enough to be a good target pistol but with the option of carrying from time to time. This combination may not exist, but to those wiser than I, any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Let me know if you ever decide to sell your M85 (I assume its an 85). I am interested in replacing one I sold.
 

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This hasn't been touched on that much, but BurkC triggered this. For good reasons it may be added.LOL

Having a snubbie makes sense for a number of reasons. These are besides portability and for convienence. Rarely is this discussed here at this forum.

Carrying a second gun.The fastest reload is having another gun all ready to go without needing to reload. With practice,technique, and training, it is possible to dump the first gun and draw the first, thusly keeping up and running in a gun battle.

There is mention, but not nearly as much discussion about how to carry ,draw, and use of the snubbie as a backup or quick second "reload" after the first gun is emptied.

This isn't for everybody or under all conditions, but it can be done. Won't go into that here as other staff and members are more well versed in that. I just know of what I read, practice, and experience.

On to another snubbie advantage. In close in physical encounters the snub revolver gives little leverage advantage and little to hang on to if the attacker gets a hold of the gun. Hard to twist away from the user.

Should the user pull the trigger in such a case,safely to the user, but not for the attacker, the muzzle blast and gasses from the side of the cylinder can do physical damage to the attacker. That's not to say what great damage a contact shot to the attacker will do if this is possible to attempt.

Revolvers usually can still function after a close contact shot to a human body. Not so much so for pistols. Not written in stone and the revolvers innards can be clogged with flesh and gore and not work.

In real documented cases though where contact shots were used revolvers continued working more so than did pistols.

Won't go into that further. This is long as it is.

Another advantage of the snub is tha ability to cover an approaching suspicious person. This is if the revolver is in a jacket pocket or if pants with a large enough pocket are worn. The revolver can be angled or the hand can already be on the gun in the pocket ready for a draw if needed. Fastest way other than to have the gun out is to be ready to draw if needed.

If the approaching individual is of no consequence it is never be realized they were covered (don't point the muzzle at them) or that you had an advantage if anything were to go wrong.

The number of people who've been saved by these approaches is valid, so the meaningful precedent has validity. In other words there are good reasons to use this without being considered paranoid.

There are even a number of professional gun instructors who carry a brace of snubbies as their main guns and back up. Either in a IWB holster made for two alike snubbies or in seperate places on their person. This way they can carry discreetly without having just one full sized gun or the bulk of a full sized one and a smaller backup. These guys do dedicate themselves to this and practice religiously with this means of carry.
Not for everybody. Just putting out there for consideration.

Snubs are not a bad choice for a home defense gun for some of the above reasons. Don't have a pistol's ammo carrying capacity, but have other advantages.

No racking the slide. No safties to manipulate. Ease of use and the rest of the good reasons listed above. Simple operation in other words.

In training it's been documented that it's somewhat easier and more natural to get a good solid grip on a revolver grip than a pistol's.Easier to draw out of the pocket or elswhere secreted on one's person.

So there may be good reason to keep the 85 around.

While it is apparent there is somewhat humerous goings on in some of the posts, there is also the serious side as why not to get rid of a snubbie. ;) :) :D
 

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I don't plan to get rid of the 85, nor have I completely convinced myself that I need another gun, but if I do convince myself I think I'd like to get another revolver considering I have a number of pistols and long guns, and there's something classic to me about any revolver. Thanks for the input Qwiks again you've shed more light on a subject I did not know as much about as I do now.
 

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gunfun1002 said:
Thanks for the input Qwiks again you've shed more light on a subject I did not know as much about as I do now.
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