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Recoil - PT709 vs CW45?

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Hello,

I currently have a PT709 and I am thinking about adding a 45acp Kahr CW45 to my collection, but I have a question about recoil. Yes, I know that in general, launching a projectile that ways twice as much will generate more recoil, but I have heard many mixed accounts on the recoil of the CW45. I have been told that it was the "hardest kicking gun they have ever shot" (a worker at a gun store said this), to "The CW45 has as little recoil as a Glock 30" (a worker at a different gun shop).


Now my experience with sub compact guns is very limited, but I have shot a Glock 30, and it kicked less that my full size Kimber 1911 and certainly way less than my PT709. My PT709 is very snappy and sometimes hurts my wrist, were as the G30 and the 1911 are more of a "thump" straight back (which doesn't bother me).


If any of you have had experience shooting the CW45, please fill me in on your perception of its recoil. Also, if you have/have had both a PT709 and a CW45 (maybe the G30 also), can you please give your incite on their recoil relative to each other.


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Lance0812
As to relative recoil, the CW45 is (SWAG) about 25-35% harder than that of the PT709.

However, there is this: The CW45 has a very aggressive and sharp stippling pattern on the backstrap. After firing a full box of 45ACP, my hand felt as if someone had smacked it with a cheese grater.
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Lance0812 said:
As to relative recoil, the CW45 is (SWAG) about 25-35% harder than that of the PT709.

However, there is this: The CW45 has a very aggressive and sharp stippling pattern on the backstrap. After firing a full box of 45ACP, my hand felt as if someone had smacked it with a cheese grater.
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Lance0812 - Thanks for replying so quick. Is the recoil impulse more straight back, or is it more of a muzzle flip snap?
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chicharrones
Do you have a .38 special snub nose revolver? If you do and it has hard grips I bet the felt recoil (firing .38 +P) is more than that Kahr.

I could be wrong though. I only have to compare is my Glock 36 vs. my Taurus 85UL. The 85UL with .38 Special +P is much more stout than the Glock 36 with standard .45 ACP in 200 gr. or 230 gr. loads.
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