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Re: Question about a Charles Daly ZDA

Recently found a 9mm pistol whihc looks just like a Sig P226 that is a Charles Daly ZDA model. Anyone know anything about this gun. It appears well made and good quality but I just never heard of it.


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I have no experience with any of the Daly imports but have been curious of their ZDA, Hi-Power & 1911. Here's one man's review on the ZDA.


Review: Charles Daly ZDA 9mm Pistol
By Dan Smith - genitron.com
November, 2005

The name Charles Daly has been around since the 1870s when Charles Daly himself, along with two partners in a New York sporting goods business, began importing quality firearms from Prussia and Germany. They chose Daly's name as the brand for these firearms because, of the three partners' names, Daly's had the most appealing sound for a brand name.

Through the years the company has been passed along to various owners, all who have continued with Charles Daly's original desire to import quality firearms to the US. Charles Daly guns have been made by the likes of Beretta and Bernardelli of Italy, Miroku of Japan and Gabri of Spain, to name a few. Today the Charles Daly trademark is owned by KBI Inc. of Harrisburg, PA, who continues the tradition of selling quality imported firearms.

I was curious then, to see how well KBI did this year when they chose a pistol from the Serbian manufacturer, Zastava Arms, as the next new import on which to put the Charles Daly name.

Zastava itself has a heritage that goes back more than 150 years, where in the town of Kragujevac, Serbia a factory then named Gunfoundry cast its first six front loading bronze cannons with the Serbian coat of arms on the barrels. The town of Kragujevac has even a longer lineage of gunsmiths and gun makers that through world wars, regime changes, crisis and revolution, have held true to a reputation of making quality weapons for military and civilian alike. They are still going strong today in Kragujevac under the name of Zastava Arms.

For more information on Zastava, you can visit their website: www.zastava-arms.co.yu

Specifications -
Caliber: 9mm Parabellum
Action: recoil operated semi-automatic
Length: 7.75 in
Width: 1.5 in (includes decocking levers)
Height: 5.625 in (to the top of the rear sight)
Magazine Capacity: 15 rounds
Barrel Length: 4.25 in
Rifling: 6-grooves, RH twist
Trigger: double-action
Sights: White 3-dot, drift adjustable front and rear
Weight without magazine: 30 oz
Weight with empty magazine: 33.1 oz
Weight loaded (1+15 rd magazine): 39.7 oz

Features -
Hard chrome plated forged barrel.
High capacity 15-round magazine.
Ambidextrous frame mounted decocking lever.
Loaded chamber indicator.
Unique low shot indicator.

Design Notes -
When I finally received my ZDA for review it dawned on me why the promotional pictures that I saw of the gun were so appealing to me. Upon opening the case and actually holding the the gun in my hand I realized that the ZDA is almost completely modeled after the Sig Sauer P226. Dimensions, weight and style of the two guns are almost identical. Even the ZDA's falling block barrel locking mechanism is identical to the Sig's.

I must give Zastava credit though for making what appears to be a quality copy of the Sig 226, as well as adding some enhancements and interesting features to the design. First, Zastava combined the slide lock function and decock function into a single lever, and then made it ambidextrous. They also made the magazine release ambidextrous. Next, they added two new features to the design. The first is a loaded chamber indicator. The second is a unique low ammo indicator.

Ambidextrous Decocking/Slide Catch lever - This enhancement reduces the clutter of the Sig design around the top of the grip by combining both functions into a single control. The downward travel of the lever that is required for decocking has also been reduced to about 50% less than that of the Sig 226. An additional ambidextrous lever has been added to the right side as well. Even with the addition of the ambidextrous lever the ZDA is only a hair wider than the Sig 226, but at just over 1.5 inches, some may consider it too wide for concealed carry.

Loaded Chamber Indicator - Typically the loaded chamber indicator consists of a block or blade on the top of the slide that gets pushed up when a round is loaded into the chamber. It's usually a sizeable indicator that is relatively easy to see. The indicator on the new Ruger P345 for instance is big enough to even have the word "LOADED" stamped on its side.

Conversely, the indicator on the ZDA is much more subtle, as it is just a small pin that extrudes from the top of the slide just behind the breech when a round is chambered. The indication is so subtle that at the range I couldn't clearly discern by looking as to whether the indicator was in or out. On the other hand the indicator pin can be easily felt, which is probably the best way to determine your chamber status in a tactical situation anyway.

Low Shot Indicator - When I saw this advertised, I looked at all the promotional pictures I could find, trying to see where this indicator was. I couldn't see anything, and that's because the low shot indicator isn't intended to be seen. It can only be felt. And, you don't have to go looking for it. It will find you.

The idea: Let the shooter know when there are only three rounds left in the magazine. The Method: Put a special spring on the right side of the magazine follower. Cut a hole in the side of the magazine near the top such that when there are only three rounds left in the magazine, the special spring protrudes through the hole. Replace the standard screw on the upper right side grip with one that has a pin through its center. Line all of this up such that when the special follower spring protrudes through the hole in the magazine, it pushes out the little pin in the grip screw, where it pokes you in the hand.

The grip screw is positioned so the pin pokes you in the base of your forefinger when holding the gun in your right hand, and in the side of your thumb when holding the gun in your left hand. If you find this feature more annoying than helpful, you can disable it by simply removing the spring from the magazine follower.

Other design features include an aluminum alloy frame, serrated frontstrap and backstrap, serrated trigger and matte black anodized finish. One diversion from the original Sig design is the ZDA's internal spring-leaf extractor.

Charles Daly also lists this gun in a .40 S&W cal. version, but that version was not yet available at the time of this review.

The caliber -
The 9 mm Parabellum cartridge was created in 1902 by Georg Luger, who also sired the Parabellum pistol. This is a world standard, used and manufactured nearly everywhere.

Often called the "9 mm Luger", this name never was an official designation and results from a marketing ploy. The American A. F. Stoeger company was sole importer between the wars and registered the Luger name in 1923. The Luger name stuck to the 9 mm cartridge over the years and became a standard market-driven designation.

The following data set is based on standard factory loaded cartridges fired from a 4" barrel, listed by weight, brand, type and muzzle velocity. This is only a very small sample of what is available.

115 grain Fiocchi FMJ : 1250 Feet Per Second
123 grain Lapua JHP : 1165 Feet Per Second
124 grain Federal FMJ : 1110 Feet Per Second
125 grain Ultramax FMJ : 1100 Feet Per Second

Handgun Observations -
My only negative observation of the gun is that it came with only one magazine. This means that after ordering an additional magazine the gun's actual cost is $40 dollars more, as it is my personal opinion that all new guns should come with at least two magazines.

Form, fit and function were otherwise excellent for this gun. The slide and barrel fit tightly to the frame with no observed rattle when shaken. The magazine had some minor play at the base of the grip, and when loaded with ammunition had a slight rattle that is commonly found in double-stack style magazines.

A plus-one round can be easily loaded through the open breech, but the slide needs to be released sharply to keep the loaded chamber indicator from binding against the chambered cartridge. This is common with breech blocks that have loaded chamber indicators.

Double-action trigger pull is very reasonable. The hammer spur is angled for ease and comfort during manual cocking. In single-action mode the trigger has a little more than a quarter inch of take-up before reaching a crisp break.

Shooting -
A day at the range with this gun was an an entirely pleasant experience. It fit perfectly in my hand and was well balanced. Trigger pulls were consistent and the felt recoil was minimal. But what was most pleasant was how well the gun shot. My groupings were extremely tight and consistent with both 7 yard and 25 yard sets. To view the Poor Shot's Range Report click HERE.

Conclusion -
The Charles Daly ZDA is a definite value. It is a well crafted gun with all the style and quality of the Sig 226 but with a price that is a good $200 less, even after purchasing that additional magazine.
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