Rattle on new 85's, 605's and 856

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Lionquest1

Discussion Starter · Jun 6, 2018

My Taurus 85 had a slight internal rattle when you turned it sidewise. The same with one of my 605's. One you can't really tell. I had someone ask me about this with the 856. I am assuming it has something to do with either the keylock or the transfer bar. It is not indicative of any problem that I now, but it is disconcerting to a new owner. Does anyone know what causes it?

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NativeTexan

· #2 · Jun 6, 2018

The transfer bar sits loose in its channel and will rattle. Not a problem and not just with Taurus revolvers. The transfer bar copies Ruger's design.

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Echo40

· #3 · Jun 6, 2018

I remember that one time I was concerned by the sound of excessive rattling coming from my Judge when I picked it up, then upon unloading it the rattling was gone. Turned out it was the buckshot inside the shells I had loaded. It still has a slight rattle, but like NativeTexan said, it's just the Transfer Bar.

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Lionquest1

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 6, 2018

NativeTexan said:
The transfer bar sits loose in its channel and will rattle. Not a problem and not just with Taurus revolvers. The transfer bar copies Ruger's design.

Thanks - that was the info I was looking for.

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lee n. field

· #5 · Jun 7, 2018 (Edited)

Lionquest1 said:
My Taurus 85 had a slight internal rattle when you turned it sidewise. The same with one of my 605's. One you can't really tell. I had someone ask me about this with the 856. I am assuming it has something to do with either the keylock or the transfer bar. It is not indicative of any problem that I now, but it is disconcerting to a new owner. Does anyone know what causes it?

Transfer bar. Don't worry about it.

The lock is unlikely to ever rattle.

The transfer bar copies Ruger's design.

I think Charter Arms reinvented it in modern times. Transfer bars go all the way back to Iver Johnson, around the turn of the last century.

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silverstring

· #6 · Jun 7, 2018

Ditto as above - its the transfer bar. No worries.

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taurustoter

· #7 · Jun 8, 2018

Tuco_Ramírez said:
I remember that one time I was concerned by the sound of excessive rattling coming from my Judge when I picked it up, then upon unloading it the rattling was gone. Turned out it was the buckshot inside the shells I had loaded. It still has a slight rattle, but like NativeTexan said, it's just the Transfer Bar.

Ha ha ha, now that's funny right there!

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BC605

· #8 · Jun 8, 2018

FWIW, depending on the ammo, a lot of my revolvers rattle when loaded.
They need a little slop in the headspacing between the cylinder and the blast shield to avoid having the cylinder lock up due to minor bits of crud like unburnt powder. So the rounds rattle back & forth a little.
The worst one is my 1917 Commercial. It has been reamed to allow shooting 45 Colt rounds and the rims are significantly thinner than the combo of the rims and moonclips of 45ACP, so they rattle quite a bit. But they still fire just fine.

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jtg452

· #9 · Jun 8, 2018

BC605 said:
FWIW, depending on the ammo, a lot of my revolvers rattle when loaded.
They need a little slop in the headspacing between the cylinder and the blast shield to avoid having the cylinder lock up due to minor bits of crud like unburnt powder. So the rounds rattle back & forth a little.
The worst one is my 1917 Commercial. It has been reamed to allow shooting 45 Colt rounds and the rims are significantly thinner than the combo of the rims and moonclips of 45ACP, so they rattle quite a bit. But they still fire just fine.

You sure they reamed the original cylinder? That would be an excessive amount of headspace and I'm not sure that the firing pin is even long enough to fire a set up like that at all, much less reliably. Numerich sold kits for years to convert 1917 Smiths to .45 Colt (whole cylinder assemblies) or .357Mag (cylinder assemblies and new barrels). My Brazilian Navy Contract was converted to .45Colt using one of those kits.

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I think they are right about the transfer bar. Personally, I always figure that any little rattle like that is from the loose nut behind the trigger.

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Echo40

· #10 · Jun 8, 2018

taurustoter said:
Ha ha ha, now that's funny right there!

Yep, I took my Judge out of it's case and upon moving it around I heard an excessive amount of rattling coming from it, so I was thinking, "Uh-oh, that can't be good." So I unloaded it so that I could examine it more carefully, then I checked to see if the actions were still functioning, (fearing the worst) but it functioned perfectly fine. It was at that point that I realized that the rattling was gone, and then it hit me, I had the cylinder loaded to capacity with Federal Premium .410 Handgun 000 Buck. It was just the buckshot rattling around inside the shells. (Each 3" shell has 5 pellets, so with a full cylinder thats a total of 25, which obviously produces quite a bit of rattle when they are all moving around at once.)
Gave me a good scare at first, but nowadays I look back on it with amusement.

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Gary b

· #11 · Jan 2, 2021

Tuco_Ramírez said:
I remember that one time I was concerned by the sound of excessive rattling coming from my Judge when I picked it up, then upon unloading it the rattling was gone. Turned out it was the buckshot inside the shells I had loaded. It still has a slight rattle, but like NativeTexan said, it's just the Transfer Bar.

thanks I had the same problem was going to send it in but I guess I won't
kind of worried me with a brand new gun

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Czechbikr

· #12 · Jan 2, 2021

I must need those hearing aids that my wife keeps telling me about... I've never heard a rattle from mine.

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GhostHorse

· #13 · Jan 2, 2021 (Edited)

Just checked several revolvers. My Heritage .22 doesn't. All the rest that I checked, rattled without ammo in the cylinder. That includes:

Taurus 651
Taurus Judge
1940s Detective Special
1980s Detective Special

All rattle. I find it particularly interesting that the Colts rattle, since they use a rebounding hammer instead of a transfer bar. I wonder if that means the hand of virtually any centerfire revolver will rattle? Could be some other part, too of course.

Edit to add some more information:

My Ruger New Vaquero barely rattles at all. I can almost say it doesn't rattle. Compared to the DA revolvers, virtually none. The New Vaquero has a transfer bar, but it seems to have more spring tension on it than the transfer bars in the other revolvers I checked. My Uberti birdshead, which is a quite faithful Colt SAA clone, also has less rattle than any of the DA revolvers. I'd suspect the spring around the ejection rod, but the tiny bit of sound seems to be coming from around the hammer, not the barrel.

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