Finally took my ccw class and,instead pc using thé class instructifs Glock 19.I used my or 709 slim . Thé instrictorgive me alittle flack for thé compact size of it . He was sure I wouldnt quallify with it at first . But hechanged nos tune after i hit six bullseyes,and four ten rings with it. I can say i was kind of proud when he ask If he could shoot my third clip . Hewas very impresed.