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Way past time for this rant, hope someone from Taurus listens here.
In Jan 2010 I purchased a new PT-99 to get a Beretta M9 based pistol with adjustable sights.
I was initially disappointed that the rear sight blade was quite sloppy but it didn't seem to affect accuracy too much at first but got worse and worse as time passed.
That is until just 2 years later when it broke and fell off, now a big accuracy problem :(
I contacted Taurus and was notified that sights weren't covered under warranty but they would sell me a new one for $41.72 as long as I would install it myself.
So I ordered that sight but when it arrived it took me about 2 hours to install since it was about .005 too wide to fit in the frame and I had to fit it by hand.
Then I proceeded to shoot the gun for a while more watching the new one get sloppier and sloppier until it broke and fell off like the first one.
That was about a year ago, but this time when I contacted Taurus I found out they had dis-continued the PT-99 and no longer had any replacement sights available. I asked them what they expected me to do and was told maybe I could find a gunsmith that could fit something else but there was nothing they could or would do! I guess they think I can afford to buy new weapons and just throw them away when they break due to poor parts manufacturing.
How sad a situation this is, you build a gun with problem-some parts, discontinue it and turn your back on the customer.
I can promise you this is not the kind of service you would get from Ruger or Smith&Wesson. Ruger still retro fits the original 3 screw Blackhawks with a transfer bar to make them drop safer, but SAA revolvers had been build for over 100 years like that. Ruger had no reason they had to do that except good customer will. Actually as a rule the gun industry has a reputation for customer service next to none, I wouldn't even begin to compare Taurus to Dillon who warrants their products for life, NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
So I'm still looking for a gunsmith that will fit another rear sight to the gun and not charge me more than the guns worth. And if I do get that job done, what will be the guns value as a old, hacked Taurus?
Shame on you Taurus for not stepping forward to take care of your customers on this. I'm not the only one by far, AFAIK every one of them breaks after some use. :( I do promise you this was not my first Taurus but it will be my last.
 

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Actually SAL: you are way late on this rant, many have already beat you to the punch on this.
 

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And not knowing which part/s are broken, it will be difficult to help you. A picture or two would be nice also.
 

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I am in the same boat. It's the blade on the adjustable sight. The only "fix" that Taurus has offered is to sell me a fixed sight that *surprise* didn't fit the slide and then to tell me I could buy a new PT-92 slide for $200. I can buy a whole new PT-92 for $350...

It's interesting that no one has come up with an aftermarket solution. I get that the windage adjustment might be prohibitively expensive to manufacture for such a small market, but I would think a sight that retained the vertical adjustment would be a big hit.
 

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Gun Broker often has "parts guns" (everything except the frame) for sale, it's an auction so let your wallet be your guide. However, I have accumulated several PT99 and a couple of PT92 "parts guns" which have come in real handy when I bought an SS 99 that someone had "fixed" the trigger, another 99 had a rear sight problem, it would not hold a zero, no matter which rear sight was on it, ended up replacing the slide, FIXED. So on and so forth .....

I hope to never send my 99's to the mother errr, ahhh, SHIP yeah that's the ticket, ship.

ymmv

 
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Shame Shame Taurus

With a bit of work, could this be a place to start??
Not trying to be sarcastic but there are a lot of options possible with "a bit of work", if your a gunsmith or have access to a vertical mill and know how to machine.
But that's really not the issue here is it. Taurus shouldn't be manufacturing guns that have defective parts that break after a very short time and then not only refuse to warranty them, but remove them from the market and tell current owners only "sorry, can't help ya".
 

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Not trying to be sarcastic but there are a lot of options possible with "a bit of work", if your a gunsmith or have access to a vertical mill and know how to machine.
But that's really not the issue here is it. Taurus shouldn't be manufacturing guns that have defective parts that break after a very short time and then not only refuse to warranty them, but remove them from the market and tell current owners only "sorry, can't help ya".
I think there will always be a need for some fitting as Taurus released 4 different versions of the PT-99 since 1992. While I have one of each version I never took the time to see if the sight is the same width on all for. I'm guessing each version may be slightly different.

I often wondered why another company did not step up and make a replacement sight for the PT-99 and PT-101. Even if it was not adjustable. Just the bar that holds t in place with a dove tail cut in it to hold a regular PT-92 fixed sight.
 
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I imagine that its just numbers to make a sight specific to one company, when the company has discontinued the weapon(s).
I don't know total number of 99 produced but I am sure its well below the 92's?
of course the 101 was a flash in the pan short manufacture as we know.
It would be an interesting exercise IF Dawson Precision offered a rear adjustable sight for the 99/101 as I believe they would be the only game in town?
maybe even also offer a fiber optic rod in it as a choice.
 

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.........I can promise you this is not the kind of service you would get from Ruger or Smith&Wesson....
Hogwash. Google search 460xvr problems, 686 problems, canted misaligned barrel problems to get a taste of kind of modern era custom service unfortunate people have received from Smith. I'm not trying to bad mouth S&W, but the days of that disney fairytale magic, like the one you referenced, are nearing an end.

And yes, this is coming from a guy that owns multiple S&W revolvers (despite what my signature says).
 

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I bought an adjustable rear sight for my PT 92 from LPA and they are great I don't know if they will fit the 99 or not. If it was me I'd do some shopping around I'd call these sight companies. I do know that you can send the slide in to Novak and for $50.00 they will mill your slide. Or at least they used to. Call the sight makers in sure they can help
 

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I bought an adjustable rear sight for my PT 92 from LPA and they are great I don't know if they will fit the 99 or not. If it was me I'd do some shopping around I'd call these sight companies. I do know that you can send the slide in to Novak and for $50.00 they will mill your slide. Or at least they used to. Call the sight makers in sure they can help
Thanks muddcatt54, I looked into the the PT 92 sight option, they are different.
As I've mentioned before, it's not that it's a impossible task, any good machinist could mill the slide and make something work. It's just a matter of $ money.

@RedPhantom, I've got to disagree with you on your claim. I own numerous S&W, Rugers, Colt's and others and am active on many firearm websites. No manufacturers guns are perfect and neither are their customer service departments. But I've never heard of a situation like this anywhere, where a gun owner has the manufacturer totally turn his back on a whole line of weapon and it's owners.. NO, S&W or Ruger has never pulled a stunt like this AFAIK. It's disgraceful and Taurus doesn't deserve a "oh well, everyone does it" break on this.
 

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The similarity between the rear sight of a model 92 and a model 99 is about like a Yugo and a 18 Wheeler in comparison.
I know of no rear sight that will interchange with the 99 rear sight.
and I seriously doubt if there is a large enough demand for one that anyone is going to manufacture one either?
 

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The similarity between the rear sight of a model 92 and a model 99 is about like a Yugo and a 18 Wheeler in comparison.
I know of no rear sight that will interchange with the 99 rear sight.
and I seriously doubt if there is a large enough demand for one that anyone is going to manufacture one either?
If any aftermarket company were interested, Taurus could probably say how many of the Model 99 were sold. That's not to say how many would need to replace a rear sight, but if the product produced were good enough there would be people who would buy one just to gain the benefit of a better part.
 
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