Some of us had "failure to extract" issues with our 709's where the extractor failed to pull the empty casing out of the chamber. Now, I'm not talking about a "stovepipe" where the casing is pulled from the chamber but isn't thrown clear of the action. Although those may have been experienced by some shooters. With mine, I just tried different ammo and found that my 709 "liked" some brass and didn't like other brass. Cheap Federals worked fine, but Winchester White Box was a nightmare. After about 1,000 round I tried various ammo and it seemed to cycle, fire, extract and eject everything. If you don't think you can be as patient as I was, you can always opt to send it on a vacation to Miami.