An important point that gun manufacturer's should consider is the length of the barrel for "compact and subcompacts." It would be nice if they offered an option for a longer barrel.I will echo Olfarhors' comments. I have tried several types and grains of hollowpoints in my 709; all have shot fine with normal pressured ammo; also do not like +P ammo. I don't see a need for it, and I don't want to stress my handguns. I also like the Fiocchi 92 grain EMB ammo, and use it for my SD as well as Federal 124 HSP HST. I have posted some results of self-tests of some ammo under the ammunition subforum. If you haven't seen it, check out this very good technical guide on self defense ammo selection:
Best Choices for Self Defense Ammo
You and Bob are right on, +P loads in short barrels put a major strain on frames and recoil springs. Also, consider that a good portion of the "boost" of +P in a short barrel will likely end up detonating outside the barrel, meaning that instead of extra "push" on the bullet, you are going to get more flash and blast.An important point that gun manufacturer's should consider is the length of the barrel for "compact and subcompacts." It would be nice if they offered an option for a longer barrel.
The author of the article states:
BARREL LENGTH plays a role in this as well. While +P loadings may not be required in most cases, they can compensate for short barrels and the resulting loss in muzzle velocity. For example: In 9mm, the 124gr Gold Dot is a good choice in barrel lengths of 4" or more. In compact guns of 3.5" or less, a higher-velocity loading would be advised. This is Dr. Roberts take on the issue:Actually, all our testing has traditionally been done in 4" barrels for 9 mm, .40 S&W, and 4.25" for .45 ACP, although recently most of the organizations we test for have been asking for 5" barrel data for .45 ACP. There is really no difference in performance between a 3.5" and 4" barrel in 9 mm and .40 S&W. In .45 ACP, we see a reasonably significant change in performance going from a 5" to 3.5" or less barrels. Since almost all viable pistols in 9 mm and .40 S&W use 3.5-4.5" barrels, there are no "short barrel" worries for serious end-users. Likewise, almost all .45 ACP platforms worthy of hard use use barrels greater than 4", so again, the short barrel question is moot...Please be aware that if you venture into guns with a barrel length of less than 3.5", you're in uncharted territory.
Well they usually do, its just a different model!An important point that gun manufacturer's should consider is the length of the barrel for "compact and subcompacts." It would be nice if they offered an option for a longer barrel.
Sure it does.