I went out and shot the new Pt140, ss today, and took the Ms. Cold and rainy here so we went to the indoor range. 150 rounds and no problems.I had bought several different when I got the 24/7 just to shoot it and see what it liked, and to get the brass supply up. I finished up all the old stuff and it all did well as far as no problems. The 180 UMC in the PT seems to do the best as in my 24/7. all the 165 is good as far as rt. or left just about an inch lower which is to be expected. The Ms. loved it and said she saw no difference in recoil from the 24/7. I gotta stop taking her, she's gettin to good. We both agree it needs the ribber grips.We shot at 3 - 7 - and 15 yards and never got outta the X or 10 ring on the CHL target. I shot a few of the 180 Speer gold dots factory low recoil ( is what I will carry in it for CCW) and they did great. This is a good gun gents, and if you dont like .40 the others are just as good i'd bet.