Problems with PT111 Pro

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BornToLooze

Discussion Starter · Feb 25, 2013

I got my fiancee a PT111 Pro and I was at the range trying it out today (hey I paid for it, I might as well shoot it too.) and it worked fine for the first 50 rounds, but after that it seemed like it was jamming every couple of rounds. I was using Freedom Munition ammo, which are factory reloads. Could that be what's causing the problem or would it be something wrong with the gun? I would just try some other ammo, but as you can guess, 9mm is kind of hard to find.

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Robby

· #2 · Feb 25, 2013

Welcome aboard from the KY, Horse Country!! Be sure to check out the Sticky's in each section, and FAQ !!!

Remember to prepare that gun, by cleaning and relubing it prior to shooting it.

If your limp wristing that gun, you can have jamming?

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Ranch Dog

· #3 · Feb 25, 2013

1+ what Robby has to offer. The PT111Pro is a fairly light handgun and as you shoot your wrist can take a beating that might not be realized. You really need to hang on to it or it will experience some feed issues. A very firm grip is required as support for the recoil activated slide to react to. I mention this as in training I will shoot my PT111 approximately 300 rounds in the course of a day and 1000 rounds over four days. At the end of the day, I feel it and usually wrap my wrist at night with and take a dose of Advil as I know that wrist will effect the pistols performance the following day. There is enough malfunction drills and I do not want to add any on my part. One way I eliminated this type of issue is by moving to 147-grain bullets in training. More of a pounding for my wrist but more energy to always cycle the slide despite any grip issues. Worked like a charm and it keeps me competitive on steel targets against 40 S&W and 45 ACP shooters.

I only mention this as the pistol is new to you and I would expect a new shooter to experience the issue after the first box of ammo. My wife is a fairly new shooter and suffers from arthritus. At the first failure to feed with her little 732B, I stop the session and call it a day. Funny thing is that little 32 ACP cycles them just fine the next day without even cleaning the pistol.

Here is a very good explanation of Limp Wristing.

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MOONDAWG

· #4 · Feb 25, 2013

Welcome aboaard from Florida the "GunShine" state. :icon_ lala:

State of over "1 MILLION 120 THOUSAND" Concealed Carry Licenses and counting!

Lots of PT-111 fans her including yours truly. Even $3,000+ 1911's need breaking in to shoot reliably, so don't give up so soon.

As you said yourself it didn't exhibit problems till you'd fired 50 rounds.

I don't think any of us will ever fire 50 + rounds in a gun fight on the street; so worrying about that is a moot point.

I predict once it's had 300 rounds through it and throughly cleaned it'll pur like a kitten. :thumb:

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BornToLooze

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 25, 2013

I wouldn't think it would be limp wristing, because I held it the same way I do my 1911s and I've never had a problem with them. But next time I'll try holding it tighter and see if that does anything.

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Ranch Dog

· #6 · Feb 25, 2013

BornToLooze said:
I wouldn't think it would be limp wristing, because I held it the same way I do my 1911s and I've never had a problem with them. But next time I'll try holding it tighter and see if that does anything.

Steel or alloy frames vs. a polymer frame. Big difference.

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BornToLooze

Discussion Starter · #7 · Feb 26, 2013

Something else I just thought of, when I was cleaning it last night the spring was a lot looser than it was when I first got it. Would that just be from breaking it in? Because I wouldn't think 100 rounds would make that drastic of a difference in the spring.

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dfa24.7

· #8 · Feb 28, 2013

Ok, I can't stand not knowing any more...Is a PT111 Pro the same thing as a PT111 G2? Or is it like a version up from that???

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jwc007

· #9 · Feb 28, 2013

dfa24.7 said:
Ok, I can't stand not knowing any more...Is a PT111 Pro the same thing as a PT111 G2? Or is it like a version up from that???

The PT-111 Millennium Pro is the last version of the original Millennium design. The PT-111 G2 is the new and current version, similar in size, but with many new design features.

Now back to the original topic!

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HD-Mike

· #10 · Feb 28, 2013

BornToLooze said:
I wouldn't think it would be limp wristing, because I held it the same way I do my 1911s and I've never had a problem with them. But next time I'll try holding it tighter and see if that does anything.

I have to grip my 709 tighter than I do with my PT1911. The full metal frame is so much heaveir than the poly frame and the weight of the PT1911 helps make the recoil more controllable.

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aphdmansoc

· #11 · Mar 2, 2013

Ranch Dog said:
1+ what Robby has to offer. The PT111Pro is a fairly light handgun and as you shoot your wrist can take a beating that might not be realized. You really need to hang on to it or it will experience some feed issues. A very firm grip is required as support for the recoil activated slide to react to. I mention this as in training I will shoot my PT111 approximately 300 rounds in the course of a day and 1000 rounds over four days. At the end of the day, I feel it and usually wrap my wrist at night with and take a dose of Advil as I know that wrist will effect the pistols performance the following day. There is enough malfunction drills and I do not want to add any on my part. One way I eliminated this type of issue is by moving to 147-grain bullets in training. More of a pounding for my wrist but more energy to always cycle the slide despite any grip issues. Worked like a charm and it keeps me competitive on steel targets against 40 S&W and 45 ACP shooters.

I only mention this as the pistol is new to you and I would expect a new shooter to experience the issue after the first box of ammo. My wife is a fairly new shooter and suffers from arthritus. At the first failure to feed with her little 732B, I stop the session and call it a day. Funny thing is that little 32 ACP cycles them just fine the next day without even cleaning the pistol.

Here is a very good explanation of Limp Wristing.

Thanks for the reference..."more" than I ever wanted to know and useful!

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bre346

· #12 · Mar 2, 2013

I took my CHL test using a 1911. No Problem. Practicing with the pt111 revealed a harsher recoil. Firiing an S&W snubbie was worse. Yeah, gotta hang on.
Practice. You'll get used to it and improve rapidly.

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111proguy

· #13 · Mar 10, 2013

yea, I think ranchdog is on to something my 732 was stovepiping and not cycling properly then I figured out limp wrist was the culprit once I changed my grip presto it was like a new gun.

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