Price increase?

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rainman

Discussion Starter · Jan 6, 2008

Just curious, has Taurus had a recent price increase? I’ve purchased a few guns recently through Davidson’s and was thinking about either a 44mag or 454 sometime in the near future. Right after the first of the year I noticed that Davidson’s “list” prices were higher than those represented on Taurus’ web site where up to that time they were identically priced.

As a comparison, Taurus lists the 444multi with a 4” barrel, finished in titanium blue, for $666 but Davidson’s has it listed for $681. Taurus lists the 454 Raging Bull with the 5” barrel for $927 while Davidson’s list price is $942.

I’m a big boy (well, most of the time if you don’t ask my wife) and realize it’s not what you ask but what you give for an item that counts. I just find it a bit disconcerting that a company like Davidson’s, who so far has been great to work with, would artificially increase the price of their products to simulate greater savings. The crazy thing is they have a direct link to the manufacturer’s web sites making it easy to check advertised factory prices! Have any members heard of any increase in prices?

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Robby

· #2 · Jan 6, 2008

No!!!! There is no listing here, but I would bet they have gone up!
We have heard that they do not update the Taurus web site!! That could be the reason your seeing Davidsons prices above web site.

That has been a major bone for some of us that love to check web sites for information prior too or after purchase of items.

Taurus_9mm

· #3 · Jan 7, 2008

I'm not familiar with Davidsons but it doesn't sound like they're doing themselves any favors but matching or exceeding Taurus' MSRP. Real world prices are sometimes significantly lower if you shop around on places like www.budsgunshop.com and www.gunbroker.com

rainman

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jan 7, 2008

I'm not familiar with Davidsons but it doesn't sound like they're doing themselves any favors but matching or exceeding Taurus' MSRP. Real world prices are sometimes significantly lower if you shop around on places like www.budsgunshop.com and www.gunbroker.com

I am by no means indorsing Davidson’s, but have had excellent success getting the best prices anywhere. Davidson’s list the weapon and then you get three bids from local dealers. You make a deposit on line then settle up the balance with the dealer that you’ve selected. I’ve purchased two guns in the past month. A Taurus 970 that listed for $439 (then not now!) that I purchased through a local dealer for $319. The other was a Steyr M9-A1 that listed for $598 and purchased for $380. I really haven’t seen better prices anywhere. Bud’s and Gunbroker, when taking into account the transfer fees were not any cheaper. What does bother me is an inflation of the list price if, in fact, this is being done.

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NYPD

· #5 · Jan 7, 2008

http://www.galleryofguns.com/GunLocator/consViewBids.asp?status=auto&locID=99831003302302D

That's the list price----if you continue on with the process Davidsons' will give you three retailers in your area and the prices. I tried the RB in 454 ith a 5" barrel and above is what it's going for in my area. Not even close to $942.

I've purchased a few firearms from Davidsons' and even if their list price is higher you're not gonna find it much cheaper anywhere else when all is said and done.

Robby

· #6 · Jan 7, 2008

I have bought both from Davidson's and BudsGunShop. The msrp listed by davidson's has been off what the web site says, but Taurus site has not been updated price wise for about a year or more.
Buds was cheaper for me on my last purchase, because they are only about 60 miles from me, in same state so no FFL fees.

If I am looking I try to check at least 3 sites online, and compare with local dealers.

When you purchase from Davidson's you buy from them, and only paying the local dealer for the use of his FFL to get the gun to you. Davidson's provides all warranty or returns.

rainman

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 7, 2008

Couldn't agree more NYPD in AZ. My point, obviously not well made, was if Taurus had raised it retail prices or if Davidson's had inflated the retail price to make the purchase/sale price more attractive. As stated in my first post, it's not what they ask but what you pay that's the most important. I just don't appreciate an artifical increase in price to make the sale price seem better than it is. The question still remains, has Taurus raised it prices?

Robby

· #8 · Jan 7, 2008

Well, if your unsure, I suggest you use the contact link on Davidson's site, they have been helpful and responsive to me in the past.

Or call Taurus direct. Heck good a time as any to find out!! Too late for me I have bought my limit for 2007 and 2008.

NYPD

· #9 · Jan 7, 2008

rainman said:
The question still remains, has Taurus raised it prices?

Probably....like others have stated the Taurus website is notoriously outdated on some points.

sanger rat

· #10 · Jan 7, 2008

Hello, New member here. I just orderd a PT140SS at Williams Gunsight today and they told me the price went up 9 dollars for 08.

Taurus_9mm

· #11 · Jan 7, 2008

rainman said:
Ive purchased two guns in the past month. A Taurus 970 that listed for $439 (then not now!) that I purchased through a local dealer for $319. The other was a Steyr M9-A1 that listed for $598 and purchased for $380. I really havent seen better prices anywhere. Buds and Gunbroker, when taking into account the transfer fees were not any cheaper. What does bother me is an inflation of the list price if, in fact, this is being done.

Those prices are much more realistic than the other two quoted, especially the RB at $942.

Pulled from another recent thread:

.454 and a 5" barrel for $600.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=87546679

Taurus_9mm

· #12 · Jan 7, 2008

And BTW, welcome to the forum Sanger Rat, glad to have you with us. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

sanger rat

· #13 · Jan 7, 2008

Taurus_9mm said:
And BTW, welcome to the forum Sanger Rat, glad to have you with us. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Thank you. I've been lurking for a couple weeks now. Great site.

Steelheart

· #14 · Jan 7, 2008

I'm another who tends to check Budsgunshop.com and Gunbroker for quick price checks. Its just easier that way. And I'd expect that prices have gone up, its a new year.

Steelheart

joe sixpack

· #15 · Jan 7, 2008

i looked at this site a few times.. usually i found the guns cheaper locally or on buds.. but one thing i did'nt understand was the price.. the final price was always decent.. but the "less deposit" got me.. do you get the deposit back after you complete the transaction (held as good faith money) or is the final balance in addition to the deposit they put on your credit card? confused!

anyone who's ever used them can walk me threw it?

Robby

· #16 · Jan 7, 2008

I have used Davidson's for purchase of my PT111 and here is how it works.

When you get that list of three dealers, they are the FFL who will collect the balance of the transaction. For this they receive the FFL fee, and send the proceeds to Davidson's. That deposit if you want to call it that is part of the price for the gun. It is not a refundable item.

I found them cheaper when I bought my PT111, however, I will admit I did not know Buds was only 60 miles from me, because less the FFL fees, I probably could have bought it cheaper from them if I went to pick it up, like I did with my Rossi 357.

joe sixpack

· #17 · Jan 7, 2008

Sale Price $481.95
Addt'l Fees $19.95
Tax $32.53
Sub Total $534.43
(Less Deposit) ($142.50)
Balance $391.93

so according to this the price would be 391.93 + 142.50?

so total cost of the gun would be 534.43?

holy #($*%!#@$!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats extremely overpriced.. if the "balance" was the actual sells price it would've be to bad.. in fact it would be about 10 bucks cheaper then i can get it locally or at buds..

but the deposit takes them from being either well priced or slightly below to being on the very high end of the scale..

i checked 5 guns everyone of them was priced in a similar fashion.. minus deposit they was competitive.. with deposit they're in the "are they smoking crack!?, price range.

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Robby

· #18 · Jan 7, 2008

PT111 Pro Davidson's $285.99
Location Davidsons Inventory Addt'l Fees $19.95
Dealer Notes Tax $17.16
Sub Total $323.10 ACTUAL PRICE!
(Less Deposit) ($104.75)
Balance $218.35

Now buds says

Taurus PT111 Millennium Pro 9mm Blue, 12 round
Model: 111BP12 $297.00
Delivered
This Item is in stock.
Bud's Item Number: 13492
Item Condition: Factory New

However, when you make the purchase there are taxes for some states, FFL fee's for who ever you chose to have them ship it too. Usually that will come up to at or just above Davidson's price.

The PT111 was the same price when I bought mine, but Davidson's had a $25 rebate on them.

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joe sixpack

· #19 · Jan 7, 2008

i dont know about that specific gun but the ones i looked at i can get for about the same price as their "balance" thats not counting the 25% they first charge you "deposit"

just add tax..
tax can add up but it's usually not more then what shipping+ffl would have cost.

i'll check it when i go to buy a gun but i doubt i'll ever buy a gun from them at these prices.

Robby

· #20 · Jan 7, 2008

Oh I can see that! My check of both Davidson's and Buds today shows a difference even there. I have visited Buds retail shop, and they have a large place, with lots of guns, gunsmith, and range. They did have the best price on the Rossi I bought, only thing negative about them, is if you want to use your credit card, they charge a fee for doing credit. They do offer setting up an account for purchases that does not do that, but I did not pursue it.

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