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IF I was to use a 45 automatic for bear defense I'd pick one that could be converted to safely handle 45 Super, which is a 45acp on steroids. The advantage is that the gun can still run 45acp without any issues. I know as I converted my Kimber to handle them. I shot 57 rds total of Super ammo, all Buffalo Bore 230gr FMJ.

The decision to convert and how you wish to make the conversion is up to you. Yes, it is harder on the gun than standard ammo. Those BB rounds are spec'd to leave the 5" barrel 1000fps and I had 7 more in the mag just in case.

I'm not sure the Taurus's 1911 would be a good choice for the conversion but I know that neither the 24/7 or the Mill Pro will handle it.

Another item on this to be cautious of is that if you have some 45 Super ammo around be very sure that it does not make its way into a normal 45 acp gun. If you only have 1 45 around and its the one that has been converted, well, then its not a big deal.

If you would like more into, I'd suggest http://www.acecustom45s.com/gunsmith.htm for into. FYI, I didn't pay for their conversion either.

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mavracer said:
why would you convert doubletap's std pressure 45acp 230grn run 1010fps from a 5" gun.
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_34&products_id=156
I'm not sure that its a standard pressure load, more likely its a hot +P but I could be wrong. I checked on Buffalo Bore & Corbon's sites and they both list a 45acp +P at 950 fps so the 1010 from DT is in the realm. The 45 Super uses a reinforced case to safely contain the higher pressure's that are generated during its firing sequence.

Remember, you don't get something for nothing.

:-[ Oh, and my memory was wrong. Its 1100fps (618 ft-lbs) with the 230gr FMJ out of the 5" barrel. Thats what I get for not double checking the spec' before I post. http://www.buffalobore.com/ammunition/default.htm#45s :bang:

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fltrucker73 said:
....but i guess its time to go to the gun shop again asap........as they say have the right gun for the job
Now that does sound like a good idea!

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I have my doubts that he intentionally shot in front of the bear. Yes, it worked but at that speed and distance I'd think that you'd only get 1 shot, after that you're hand to hand (or in this case paddle to large claw/fangs).

I do hope thats as close as I ever get!

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