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I put 3.5 grains of HP-38 over a 148 grain DEWC in .38 special cases. Mild, mild recoil and very tight groups. I probably shoot four boxes of these for every box of .357 just to keep me honest.
 

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I put 3.5 grains of HP-38 over a 148 grain DEWC in .38 special cases. Mild, mild recoil and very tight groups. I probably shoot four boxes of these for every box of .357 just to keep me honest.
Any fast burning, dense powder works well under a wadcutter. I have used red dot and green dot, but settled on the old standby, 2.7 grains of Bullseye a long time ago. I know W231 is cleaner and meters well being a ball powder, but I got set in my ways and still shoot Bullseye. It's accurate and works for me. I load it in .38 Special brass and shoot it in my .38s as well as my .357s. Both my Taurus M66s, my M85UL, and my Rossi M68 love this load. I don't feed it in my Rossi 92 carbine, though, due to feeding problems with the short OAL. It'll feed .38s, but has to be a SWC with sufficent OAL.
 

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I use a 38 special case with 5.2gr of Unique behind a 158gr jhp. About 770fps nice to shoot and accurate. However, you did ask about 357 loads - so, I use 125gr jhp over 17.5gr of 2400, one more I use is 146gr jhp with 15.0gr of 2400 - these are just about gone, so I'll just use the 125's. Here's my steel load for my 608 - 38 long cases (I cut 38's down) masterblastersbullets .38, 122gr moly over 4.0gr of Titegroup. The 38 long cases are faster reloading with the moon clips than any longer case. These bullets are configured like 9mm ball (kinda pointy) easy to drop them in the cylinder. I don't use 9mm bullets as they are a little smaller dia and accuracy suffers.
 

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I use 12 grains of A #9 with a 180 grain XTP, CCI primers, shooting star brass for pin shoots with my 608. Works great. IRISH
 

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My Favorite Target load for .38 Specials is 3.8 grns of WST under either a Berry's 158 grn Plated FLat Point or any 158 grn Cast SWC.
 

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My favorite 357 target load is 3.0gr Clays under 148gr Berry's HBWC or Rainiers 148 WC. I haven't found any cleaner, accurate, and soft shooting round than this combination.
 

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I use 12 grains of A #9 with a 180 grain XTP, CCI primers, shooting star brass for pin shoots with my 608. Works great. IRISH
I put 13.8 grains (quite hot) behind that same bullet as a hunting load for my Ruger Blackhawk. It's KILLER accurate! AA#9 is a very good powder for heavy .357 loads. Sure is a handful in an SP101, though.
 

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AA#9 also works great for 44 mag and 460. Wow, over 13 grains gotta be hot. I tried 12.8 grains for 180 XTP,s in my 83/8th in 608 for pin shootin and backed off. IRISH
 

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Yeah, I have only had the cojones to fire that load in my Rugers. I figure no sense in stressing the Taurus 66s. I wouldn't fire the load in any K frame, but an L or N would handle it I believe. It shows no signs of high pressure in the SP101 and extracts just fine.

The Blackhawk isn't stressed by the load and that's the gun I developed it for. That thing's built to handle a lot more than the .357 can dish out.
 

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try 5.2 grs of 700x for paper punching and plinking. i stumbled onto this load trying to shoot up keg of this powder.for
 

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50/50 said:
try 5.2 grs of 700x for paper punching and plinking. i stumbled onto this load trying to shoot up keg of this powder.for
But under what weight and type of Bullet?

I used to use 700x as a Pistol Powder when I used it as a Shotgun Powder (switched to Red Dot), but never that much Grainage. I was loading 158 grn HardCast SWC's under 3.4 grns of 700x in .38 Special Cases.
 

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50/50 said:
sorry about that a 158gr lswc,remington small pistol primers, starline or r&p
brass,and 5.2grs of 700x.dan
I think you're talking about 800x, not 700x, as from one load data source, Lee, Load Data is as follows:

158 grn Lead (.38 Special)

700x Starting Load=3.3 grns Max Load=3.6 grns
800x Starting Load=5.1 grns Max Load=5.7 grns

I am sure that other Load Data Sources would have similar Data.

I used to load 3.4 grns of 700x under a 158 grn LSWC with excellent results on the target, but I abandonded it long ago when I switched to different Shot Shell powders. I prefer WST currently, as it is so much cleaner and meters so well!
 

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4.8 gr of W231 under a hard cast 158 gr round nose lead bullet in .357 cases, CCI standard small pistol primers. Sounds pedestrian, i know, but every .357 I have ever had loves this combination, on the order of 1" to 1.5" 5-shot groups at 25 yards. Far more accurate than the same load with 158 gr SWC. I was using Midway USA lead bullets before they discontinued them, now use Meister, Laser Cast, or a local caster here in Illinois. All work well. Seems like a Brinnel hardness of at least 18 is the key when choosing the bullet for this load.
 
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