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Anyone better informed on this?
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If you don't already I suggest you follow Senator Doug Mastriano on Facebook. He posts updates on all major issues and legislation. And he is not a Wolf fan.
 
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Wolf has vetoed everything to cross his desk since Covid started more than a year ago. A true power-monger, Tyrant Tom has NO intent of doing ANYTHING that could curtail his userpation of power or the consolidation of same.
 

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So I tried to find out if Wolf had signed either of those bills or not. Either there’s no word yet, or my Google skills aren’t sharp enough to find it. I did find something from Gun Owners of America in relation to the bill though, and it’s kind of puzzling.

I found on release from the group, from back in April, urging their members to oppose House Bill 2440. Then another release in June, written by the same person, urging their members to support House Bill 2440.

Make up your minds folks.
 

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So I tried to find out if Wolf had signed either of those bills or not. Either there’s no word yet, or my Google skills aren’t sharp enough to find it. I did find something from Gun Owners of America in relation to the bill though, and it’s kind of puzzling.

I found on release from the group, from back in April, urging their members to oppose House Bill 2440. Then another release in June, written by the same person, urging their members to support House Bill 2440.

Make up your minds folks.
Wording on bills change over time before being finalized, it's possible it was a poorly written bill originally (or had a bunch of crap tacked on to it) and was redone by the second release to be something they felt worth supporting.
 

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Anything I was able to find just states that the Bills were handed to the Governor for his signature, but nothing about him having signed them. I seriously doubt he would sign them as they were specifically written to limit his powers during a declared emergency. The only reason he is Governor is for the power it gives him and I can't see him giving any of it away.
 

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I’m seeing posts elsewhere that suggest, as you guys expected, Wolf vetoed both bills.
 

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I’m seeing posts elsewhere that suggest, as you guys expected, Wolf vetoed both bills.
And that surprises whom? It'll only get worse from here on in.
 

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And that surprises whom? It'll only get worse from here on in.
With their governor bought and paid for, I sure it surprises no one.
 
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I’m seeing posts elsewhere that suggest, as you guys expected, Wolf vetoed both bills.
Neither chamber has enough votes to override his veto, so who would expect otherwise?
 

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He did pass the horrific budget though. Nothing to help education ,small business or property tax relief . Pa. has about 1.3 Billion in Fed. stimulus $ that Wolf seems to be stashing away while small businesses are getting crushed and going out of business. Wonder were that money will eventually wind up? :unsure:
 

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Democrat politicians in both PA and VA postured as supporting the 2nd amendment 5-8 years ago. Lately we have transparency. Anti second, anti police, anti liberty. Anarchy is the trend.

At the same time the NRA has weakened itself.
 

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From the NRA:

Last week, Gov. Tom Wolf vetoed a pair of pro-Second Amendment bills that had passed both chambers of the Legislature with solid support. The move was not unexpected, given that the anti-gun Governor has been unilaterally demonstrating his disdain for freedom and liberty for months.

Nevertheless, we want to thank the legislators who took a bold stand for the rights of Pennsylvanians. House Bill 2440 and House Bill 1747 had both passed the Senate in November on votes of 29-20 after easily clearing the House earlier this Fall. These bills were written to protect constitutionally guaranteed rights during declared states of emergencies.

House Bill 2440, by Rep. Bill Kortz, would have designated shooting ranges, sportsman clubs, hunting facilities and business relating to the sale or production of firearms and ammunition as life-sustaining. House Bill 1747, by Rep. Matthew Dowling, would have prevented state and local governments from suspending or limiting the sale, dispensing, or transportation of firearms during a declared emergency. It also would have removed the carry prohibitions that exist with exemptions.

COVID-19, and the closures occurring across much of the country, have forced a reexamination of statutes in many states with regard to declared states of emergency. Citizens are guaranteed basic fundamental rights that should never be infringed, particularly in these tumultuous times. We have witnessed firsthand the inability of government to protect people, and it is absolutely essential that citizens be able to provide for their own self-defense, especially during a declared state of emergency. While Gov. Wolf's veto is disappointing, NRA will continue to fight for the rights of all Pennsylvanians.
 

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From the NRA:

Last week, Gov. Tom Wolf vetoed a pair of pro-Second Amendment bills that had passed both chambers of the Legislature with solid support. The move was not unexpected, given that the anti-gun Governor has been unilaterally demonstrating his disdain for freedom and liberty for months.

Nevertheless, we want to thank the legislators who took a bold stand for the rights of Pennsylvanians. House Bill 2440 and House Bill 1747 had both passed the Senate in November on votes of 29-20 after easily clearing the House earlier this Fall. These bills were written to protect constitutionally guaranteed rights during declared states of emergencies.

House Bill 2440, by Rep. Bill Kortz, would have designated shooting ranges, sportsman clubs, hunting facilities and business relating to the sale or production of firearms and ammunition as life-sustaining. House Bill 1747, by Rep. Matthew Dowling, would have prevented state and local governments from suspending or limiting the sale, dispensing, or transportation of firearms during a declared emergency. It also would have removed the carry prohibitions that exist with exemptions.

COVID-19, and the closures occurring across much of the country, have forced a reexamination of statutes in many states with regard to declared states of emergency. Citizens are guaranteed basic fundamental rights that should never be infringed, particularly in these tumultuous times. We have witnessed firsthand the inability of government to protect people, and it is absolutely essential that citizens be able to provide for their own self-defense, especially during a declared state of emergency. While Gov. Wolf's veto is disappointing, NRA will continue to fight for the rights of all Pennsylvanians.
Thanks, BigBlue. I'd expect nothing less from Adolf Wolf. We're stuck with him for two more years - unless Biden rewards him with a Federal appointment. Not the the LT Guv. is any better
 
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