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I am this close >|< to ordering a ATI 1911 GI Standard (5" barrel) in .45 ACP. I had a 1911 many years ago that I sold but I have been thinking about another one. The ATI is just what I'm looking for: a very basic budget GI 1911 in .45, not going to be a carry gun, and fits my wallet. I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion about them - preferably from someone who actually owns one. Please, no "save your money and get a Les Baer or Wilson Custom" comments as I ain't gonna' pony up more than $400 or so for a gun that I just want to take to the range every once in a while and serves to round out my collection. The other one is possibly a Rock Island. Opinions on that one would also be appreciated.
Thanks for any feedback!
 

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Well Chef, I don't own one, but I have two friends at work who do. I have shot one of them, and it reminded me straight up of the 1911's I was issued in the Marines. Minute of bad guy accurate, no frills or bells or whistles, reliable as hell, and at 10 to 15 yards, I had no problem keeping the fist sized group on the B-27 target.

Phil's, the one friend who let me shoot his at the range, tended to ding the brass just a bit on the way out, but no malfunctions. Just like said above, the sights are GI basic and a little tougher to use than I remember thirty years ago, but useable.

All in all, I would buy one in a heart beat.
 

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I have one and love it. Look at Grabagun in Coppell, thats where i got mine a few months ago. Their prices are pretty good.

I do carry mine. I have over 1000 rounds through her and not one hicup. Well made and very reliable, accurate I cant say enough great things about it.

The only really negative thing I can say is the GI hammer does start to bite me after 250+ rounds in a single session. But then again all 1911's with GI hammers have done the same to me. Not so much the normal bite, but it rubs the webbing on my hand raw after a while. I wear a shooting glove, problem solved But that is a very very nit picky thing. I'd have that with any standard GI hammer.

I'd highly recommend one!

Since you are local, if you want to shoot one sometime, let me know and you can shoot mine if you want.
 

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Got one, sights change them out, polish feed ramp. Accurate enough, likes railed mags. Eats everything I can feed it. Great price too!

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I've got the Commander size "GI" model. First one I got shot low. ATI replaced it and the new one is flawless.
Read a number of reviews about the commander size shooting low. Hickok45 got one that shot low too.The full
size "Military" model doesn't seem to have this problem.

I'm a machinist. Overall I am VERY impressed with the build quality and machine work of this gun especially for the
price. Mine has very few tool mark. Slide is extremely smooth when racking. Trigger leaves a little to be
desired but that is easily fixable and I'll do it when I think it's keeping me from shooting better. I'll replace the sights
at some point too I'm not in a hurry though.

Get it. You'll like it.

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I am this close >|< to ordering a ATI 1911 GI Standard (5" barrel) in .45 ACP. I had a 1911 many years ago that I sold but I have been thinking about another one. The ATI is just what I'm looking for: a very basic budget GI 1911 in .45, not going to be a carry gun, and fits my wallet. I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion about them - preferably from someone who actually owns one. Please, no "save your money and get a Les Baer or Wilson Custom" comments as I ain't gonna' pony up more than $400 or so for a gun that I just want to take to the range every once in a while and serves to round out my collection. The other one is possibly a Rock Island. Opinions on that one would also be appreciated.
Thanks for any feedback!
I would go with the ATI one. I do not know them, however.. I DO KNOW Rock Island Armory / Armscor.. OH YES... they screwed me over big time one year.. so from an ethical stand point highly DO NOT recommend!
 

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DO IT! They are made by SAM in the Philippines. While the sights are not that great, I do find them functional. The only issue I've had is how they fit the extractor. I had to fix one of mine and one out of three a friend has, but both were 9mm. The .45's were AK reliable. :D

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I have the Commander version. It does what it's supposed to do. Takes 500 or so to run in and then it is smooth and will feed any of my hand cast bullet hand loads. I found that it ran better with Chip McCormack Shooting Star 8 round stainless magazines.
 

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Thanks all for the feedback. Yes, I have heard about issues with the stock magazines but I also understand that running a higher quality aftermarket mag solves those issues. The sites I know are lacking but would be acceptable for my purposes. Nice to hear a thumbs up from dwhite, an actual professional machinist who can accurately assess the build quality. Also, I have spoken to Grab-A-Gun in Coppell and their pricing is about as low as anyone considering that I can pick it up there and avoid any shipping charges. Also they can handle the FFL transfer right there on site. The other one I was looking at is the RIA/Armscor. But it sounds as though Happy Tom was not to happy with his experience with them!

Thanks for all the responses.
 

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I do not personally own one but I have a relative that does, and I have had the opportunity to shoot his. (if that counts) It was full size, not a commander version. When I first found out about it's country of origin and price, I was initially concerned, but after having an opportunity to shoot it was impressed. It was reliable and had acceptable combat accuracy for being a typical GI design .45, no frills but I suppose as customizable as any other GI 45 if you wish. (not a gunsmith, don't know that for sure) If I didn't already have a SA 45 auto I would consider getting one.
 

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I trust ATI for Commander and 5" 1911s. I had an Officers' size that wasn't great. So I consider them a great choice for what chefduane wants. In fact, I got one and decided to give it to my father as a retirement gift!

But I'm surprised at the RIA opinion expressed in this thread. Overall, I've heard glowing reports for years about their 1911s. On line and in person.
 
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I'd like to hear about Happy Tom's unhappy experience.
I have four Rocks and have had to send two back for small problems and found them to be very professional.

My son has one which is highly modified and had to go back. I told him they may make the gun "stock" again for lawyers sake. I was dead wrong. They found the problem with his gun, which was one of the modifications done by a local smith and they fixed it... and modified the gun further, at my son's expense, but I thought it was cool of them to do it.

As far as ATI goes, I've heard nothing but good things about them. People not accustomed to the 1911 probably aren't aware of some of the problems with an officer sized gun.
The 1911 was designed to be 5". (in case you're not aware, size decreases by 3/4") Full size, Commander, Officer) When they first started making Commanders, they had problems and when they decreased the size to the Officer, they encountered more problems. I'm quite sure this will be worked out if it already hasn't.
Full sized and Commanders take the same mag. The Officer model has it's own, smaller mag.

As with most semi auto pistols, the first place to look with problems is the magazine...especially so with a 1911. Buy quality mags(not necessarily expensive)and you'll be good to go.
I would like to say I have an older Officers sized High Standard(built by Rock)and it is flawless.

Go head, let us spend your money, buy the gun!
 

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I have 2 ATI 1911 and 2 Rock island 1911, also a Citadel 1911 (in that weird caliber).
the one ATI is a GI model but it does have upgraded sights on it, as in Mil spec (they have dots and are a bit larger) than the G I sights.
al of these have been good weapons for me, the rock island tactical II is a 600 dollar weapon in 10 MM, the other rock is a 1911 tac model in 45acp.
the ATI are both 1911 and 45 acp.
the only problem that I have had with either is that the 10 MM Rock ate the reverse recoil spring bushing, not a problem cheap and ordered from Armscor, the Rock GI model I wasn't happy with the trigger so smoothed it up, likely would have been fine for most but I didn't like it a lot.
I have a little ATI Titan that's a jewel and very accurate, its a Defender size 1911 in 45.
The Citadel is one sweet lil inexpensive 1911, enough said on that one.
I think any of the 3 companies that I mentioned would do well for you.
 

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I don't care for the GI sites, and would make sure they are easily swapped out unlike some RIA models; IMO.
I agree and that's why I never buy a true G I model that has staked sights on it.
a few bucks more and you can get dovetailed sights of better size and easily changed out.
BUT if you want a 1911 like grand pa used in the war --well!
 
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I have the RIA officers model. No frills, gi sights and I love it. I painted the front sight orange. It puts holes in what I point it at.
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MY little ATI Defender "Titan" is acceptable as well.
Fired from 7 yards unsupported.
it does come with a front dot sight and a rear tactical (large U) all black sight however.
 

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I agree and that's why I never buy a true G I model that has staked sights on it.
a few bucks more and you can get dovetailed sights of better size and easily changed out.
BUT if you want a 1911 like grand pa used in the war --well!
I bought a Rock Island Tactical II on black friday. I was looking at the ATI and Rock basic GI models when I ran across this one.( $499 with free turkish 12ga pump) I LOVE the fiber optic front sight. A lot of upgrades over the GI for a bit more money. Other than grip screws that would not stay tight (soft metal, replaced w/Wilsons), this 1911 has been flawless. Had a Springfield mil-spec a few years ago and the RIA shoots better and is far more reliable. The Philippines seem to know how to do 1911s right. ATI, Rock Island, Metro Arms, Citadel, I dont think you can go wrong. Personally, I'm glad I spent a little more (not really, because I sold the shotgun! ) and got a nicer model. Thumbs up on the Rock, but I bet you will be happy with any of them.
 

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I have the ATI Commander 1911. The ejector broke the first month and ATI fixed it within two weeks and I had it back. Never a problem since. The part had a cavity which was a weak point and caused it to break.

But I have carried it every day for the past 3 years since then and recently switched to carrying my Springfield XDS9.

The 1911 runs great and is accurate. Fit and finish is good but some of the controls are very sharp and have very hard edges. The thumb safety and slide release were both very sharp.

I took a file and sandpaper and smoothed out all the hot spots and rounded off the front of the slide so it didn't dig into the leather while holstering. It was so sharp it ripped my Alien Gear 2.0 skin. AG promptly mailed me a new one.

The ATI is my weekend or heavy duty carry gun when I want to feel more armed than with a 9mm.
 

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They seem to be well built guns.
For just a little bit more money, I would opt for the non GI model. Better sights, bevertail grip safety and extended slide release.
 
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