I was looking around today in one of our few gun shops for a holster for my new M-85 UL. Was about to leave empty handed when the owner pulls out a box of old used holsters he just got in. There was this Bianchi on belt type holster with a thumb snap on top. It was in real good shape, not missing a stich, thumb snap was fine and it had been broken in real well, in fact it fit my M-85 like an old soft leather glove, nice looking tan leather. On the back it was stamped BIANCH SHADOW #8 S&W CHIEF. Well I jumped on it for $10, prob. could have got it for less. Anyway, when I get home, I pull up Bianchi web site and this holster is not shown. This leads me to think that it might be an old vintage holster. I called Biancia and they had no idear and gave me a web site to their R&D dept. ( [email protected] ) I have not heard back yet as it was late when I did this. I just think it would be kinda neat to know how old it is. The M-85 sure rides great in it. I`ll let ya`ll know if I hear back from them. and yes I will try and post a pic. soon. I am a happy Taurus Armed guy!