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I just got off chat with Taurus. 25 minutes of time wasted with nothing learned or gained. I won't get into details, or start bashing. However, I will say this........

S&W now has a great chance for a loyal customer. I've had Taurus since 1989. I'll be trading at a loss all my Taurus. Replacing each with a S&W. For those that haven't had a problem, or who have been done right by Taurus CS, I'm happy for you and please spread the word. Lord knows Taurus needs good PR.

I'll hang here on this site if y'all will still have me, and I'll continue to respect many of the fine Taurus guns, like the 85, 66, 65 and others. But no more will I personally own one. I just feel that once Taurus got my money, I no longer matter to them.
 

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Sorry to hear that.
 

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I know how you feel.
I've said it before, and Ill say it again: Sad state of affairs at Taurus.
 
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I can understand your sentiment and hope you find something that pleases you.
Having said that, this entire situation sucks because I think it was all caused by lawyers.
My Taurus is on the recall list. It has been perfect in over 1500 rounds. Not one darn malfunction.
They aren't getting it.
As I understand it this all started with a cop who dropped his gun. Well, don't drop your gun you idiot.
Then I can imagine Mr. Cop got a lawyer because dropping his gun wasn't his fault of course.
Taurus has spent so much time and money in the court system I am surprised they are still open.
That's the way it works. Someone screws up, blames the product, gets a lawyer and off we go again.
I cannot imagine how busy Taurus is trying to keep up with this mess. Their phone lines must be smoking.
Did Taurus mess up? I don't know. At this point I don't care any longer.
The legal system has twisted the situation into an unrecognizable can of worms that has almost paralyzed the company.
I like my Taurus. I will keep it and shoot it and carry it.
I will wait until this farce of a court system gets through with messing with them and see how they recover.
If they do recover I will buy another Taurus.
If they don't I won't be able to but then the courts have won.
Doncha just love the system?

This entire situation was caused by people who made warnings like this necessary.........

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I dunno, I'm starting to move the same way. My Taurus Tracker .44 has been perfect. I'll admit I don't shoot it that much, but it has done it's job. I have been lucky in that I thought I had a timing issue (I don't think I did now that I look back in retrospect) and I sent it in, and less than a week later I got it back with the all clear. But I have heard some horror stories with this recall issue, and I would like to think it was a rare occurrence with Taurus, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. I just hope they get their business together here soon. I used to be proud to say "I have this Taurus model and here's all the cool stuff it can do" but now I find I'm hesitant to admit I'm a Taurus owner because I know I'm going to get some razzing for it...
 

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We all have a story it seems.
Mine is that well before the recall I had issues with quality control in taurus weapons.
I originally bought a model 99 back in 1987, still own it and shoot it.
then went on to buy some 9 other weapons from taurus.
slowly but surely of the 9 that I still had 5 needed to be returned for factory repair.
Now believe me , I check a gun pretty well before I buy it.
then along came the recall and 2 of my Taurus weapons that I have had no trouble from (24/7 C Pro D/S ) are now on the recall list.
so I guess you can say that's now 7 out of 9 that needs return to the mothership.
 
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You really have to take it on a case by case, gun by gun basis. Mine are all good now, they work well and I enjoy shooting them. Buying another may be a 1 in 10 proposition after the screwing I took on my PT 145 SS. But you never say never. If I found a Model 66 in good condition at a fair price I might bite....used not new and I would have to see it to inspect carefully.

The forum is about guns and friends. I think that we call it Taurus as camouflage to help keep the Glack people away...:D
 

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I love the forum and all my friends. But I am not to keen on investing in any more Taurus firearms for now. I already have a Judge PSS 3X3 unicorn, a PT92compact PSS unicorn, a normal new PT92 PSS, and a discontinued PT1911 PSS. All are beautiful and function very well. But when it came time to by a couple of long lasting revolvers I went with a S&W 60-15 in 3" and a 686 plus Deluxe in 3" instead of trackers. Smith's warranty and CS is top notch. I really hope Taurus will turn around but I am staying for all of you not the guns.
 

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I've never owned a Taurus "self shucker" of any type, caliber, style, color or configuration. That said, I have Taurus revolvers in 32 thru 44. They are good guns and quite attractive. I look for used Taurus in every store I enter, every gun show I attend; and I buy often. My Taurus revolvers have my faith and trust. I just wish Taurus would broaden their lineup of revolvers. My Taurus blue Model 441, 6" is the most attractive revolver I own, even more so than my Python or my Trooper MK V, both of which cost several times more than the 441. Thank you Taurus; Amen!!!
 

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I can and do see your position on the Taurus corporation and it's customer relations.
Having a PT145 Pro sent in and all the hoops and non information and mistakes Taurus seems not to even care about.
I also have a 455 4" Titanium that I do really like, in sheer disgust I have often thought about going the route you mention on selling it, and replacing it with another "brand" just to get away from this corporation.
I don't know, I have not made up my mind about it yet...
 

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I felt like that too when I had issues with my 605. The customer service rep has their hands tied, just remember that first and foremost. Then remember that they've probably taken a million phone calls and have had to talk to angry people all day. Reading from the script is probably the best defensive mechanism they have. Anything on your pistol that has to do with firing or fire controls will require being sent back to Taurus due to the big lawsuit. Why they can't have people just sign a waiver to buy spares is beyond me.

Fast forward a few months, I'm at the range with my 605 and killing paper pretty damned good at 15 yards with a snub nose and hot .357 rounds.

I don't blame your line of reasoning. Being unable to obtain simple parts is a big deal. But the price point and the fact they will fix it for free (albeit after a few months) is tolerable to me because I like many other people on here on plenty of other guns.

My EDC is a Glock 26 and I've put thousands and thousands of rounds through Glocks so if one pistol is getting fixd it doesn't hurt my feelings. If I had to own one Taurus pistol I would say it would be the PT-111 G2 (or a .454 Raging Bull, yes dichotomies and all that), however, even on here there are reports of those having issues. There are also reports of Glocks having issues, various makes and models of 1911's, and yes even the venerable Smith and Wesson company has pushed out some bad products. If somebody told me I could only own one pistol for the rest of my days I would probably reach for a GP-100, but I gurantee there's somebody out there who has had problems with them too.

And if you think Taurus is the only company that's made a pistol that drop fires, look no further than Sig Sauer. Hell, one of the biggest names in the game with pistols that cost x4 to x5 as much that drop fire.

As with all mechanical devices YMMV.
 

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There seems a line of thought here that my issues are with the recall. So, I'll clarify. No. My only auto is a Beretta. My Taurus with serious timing issues is an 82-4" revolver. Taurus makes a fine revolver. I just got a lemon. But I've some experience with another gun makers CS. That experience vs the Taurus experience has lead me to the conclusion, that for "ME", the extra money is worth the spending for said companies name. Maybe Taurus will improve. Maybe for many, its worth the gamble. I'll never slight another mans gun. But I will buy what " I" believe is best for me.
 

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I felt like that too when I had issues with my 605.............. would probably reach for a GP-100, but I gurantee there's somebody out there who has had problems with them too.

And if you think Taurus is the only company that's made a pistol that drop fires, look no further than Sig Sauer. Hell, one of the biggest names in the game with pistols that cost x4 to x5 as much that drop fire.

As with all mechanical devices YMMV.
I like the 605. The last gun issue I had was with a rifle. My experience lead me to buying more from that company. I work in quality in a manufacturing plant. I know that companies know and monitor their fail rates. Unfortunately, not all are as concerned about how many of those reach the consumer. Then there is how they deal with the issue once it reaches the consumer. It a company values its own brand and its customers, it will strive to reduce fail units and take care of customers with issues.
 

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Sorry to hear you have problems, but this is the reason I never sent my PT140 in. I just modified it by taking out the SA sear to make it DAO, no problems before and no problems after.
That's interesting. Based on experiments with my own Gen 1 PT 24/7, I thought the defect that got Taurus sued was that the safety can be engaged with the trigger pulled half way back. In that unsafe condition, the pistol can be fired with the safety apparently engaged, and the pistol can fire when dropped on the back of its slide because the trigger bar is free to move. Does making the pistol DAO really fix that?

Anyway, I'm going to be leery of all striker-fired pistols from now on. I'll certainly never buy another striker-fired pistol until some time after its inevitable safety recall. One of these days, I might pick up a PT 1911, or some other hammer-fired Taurus pistol if the independent reviews are good and the price is right.
 
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