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Hello all,
This is my first real hideaway gun. My other handguns are a CZ75 and a Bersa .22. They are both fun shooters and fit my hand well. Both of those are all steel and heavy enough to never disappear. This TCP is just amazing how compact it is.
I just got the TCP last week and haven't gotten a chance to shoot it yet. It is a C model, so should have all of the improvements.
I have broken it down and down and cleaned it and then done a light lube.
I have cycled snap caps through it 100+ times and am fairly impressed with the consistent feeding and ejecting based on the horror stories. It does leave bite marks on the lip of the case from the ejector, but I don't know if that is good or bad since the snap caps are fairly soft.
I bought a Desantis Nemesis back pocket holster and have carried it enough to get comfortable in how it feels in my pocket.

That DAO trigger is the first thing that stands out. It was a ton better than the LCP and P3AT I checked out, but it is still long. That combined with the small grip area is really going to affect accuracy.
I am assuming that the normal polish job would help the trigger. Has anyone tried a MOS2 lube on the trigger and slide? Any recommendations?
I have seen the grip sleeves and magazine extensions, but I am a little worried about adding on to a gun that I bought because it is small. It will end up being a preference thing, but does anyone have a Nemesis holster with an add-on and have comments?

Last thing is of course ammo. It looks like Hornady Critical Defense is the consensus carry ammo, but what is the bare-bones preference for practice ammo. Right now it looks like it is whatever you can find, but I would like to buy it in bulk when available and don't want a big quantity of problematic ammo.

Love the community
 

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Welcome to the TA forum, and congratulations on the TCP!

I have the 709, and although I don't use grip extensions, I do have a slip on grip (Hogue). One consideration you need to keep in mind is, if you do opt for a rubber grip, it can really make it more difficult if you pocket carry. The rubber is kind of "sticky" if you have it enclosed in that manner. I don't pocket carry my 709, so I do use the grip, but if I wanted to pocket it (which is not really an option, unless it's cargo shorts/pants in a large pocket), I wouldn't want the grip in place.

The extensions are a "your mileage may vary" addition. In some cases, people have encountered FTF problems due to their pinky pressure on the bottom of the mag causing misalignment of the magazine. I don't have large hands, but I also was taught years ago to grip mainly with my middle two fingers, even on large frame 1911 style handguns. My 709 feels perfect in my hands. Also, the extension does add to the length of the grip, which may detract from the concealment goal.

You just have to try some options and go with what you like best!
 

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Welcome to the ranks of happy TCP owners/carriers. I can't imagine a more concealable and comfortable pistol than Taurus's little .380. I quite often forget, consciously at least, that I'm carrying it. There will be more satisfied TCP owners along who will provide direction to a list of enhancements for it elsewhere in the forum. It's still too early on a Saturday morning for me, I can't find it right now.

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Welcome from StL. MO! Practice is the key. Reigning in a small gun with a short barrel and ( for sd) a hot round has its challenges. A range where you can draw and rapid fire would be good. Look for an IDPA BUG match. The strings are taylored to lower round counts but you will have at least one mag change per section - another valuable skill. AND if you have a problem (double feed, fte, etc) you will / should learn to fix it on the clock/fly. You can also set these problems up with any form of dummy round. It's all about knowing what to do and muscle memory!
 

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Welcome and practice....I prefer not to climb down any smaller than a compact....The recoil makes it harder for a follow up shot if need be...That is me you have fun and enjoy
 

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Congratulations and good luck with your new TCP. Here are a few comments and/or suggestions based on your post.

I put Traction grips on mine - they're not quite as good as the one-piece Talon grips I use on my other pistol (don't think they're available for the TCP?), but do a reasonable job of improving the purchase on the tiny pistol, without adding to its size, etc. IMHO the improved grip helps with the percieved recoil. I agree the trigger is better than some of its competitors and I haven't felt the need to try to alter it, other than through; use, cleaning and lubrication. I use Super Lube teflon impregnated clear synthetic grease on the rails of all my pistols, including the TCP with good results. For non-sliding areas I use either a light coating of Hoppe's oil, or Remoil spray. My prefered carry load is either Winchester PDX1, or Ranger-T. For practice I like the same grain FMJ from Privi because of its cost and good results with it so far. Of course as we all know, availability may have more to do with what we use for the time being as anything else. After trying a couple different holsters, I've returned to my favorite with my other carry pistol - the Remora with a sweat shield.
 

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I bought some Blazer practice ammo with my TCB just to have somethignh to run through it for break in. It's the aluminium jacketed stuff. It is the dirties ammo I have ever shot... Cleaned it to start with and after 12 rounds cleaned it again. I htink I am just going ot shoot them up and get something else for practive but never Blaszers again.
 

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I haven't had much luck finding bulk ammo online but am on the waiting list several places. No breath-holding at this point. I have only about 50 rounds but I am dropping in several places in the area so eventually will hit something. I just have a problem paying more than $25 a box for range ammo.

My plan is to get a couple of hundred rounds and then go to my parent's farm and do a bunch of paper plate on fencepost shooting. From there I will decide whether I want some grip enhancement. I really like my Hogue Grips on my CZ75 but I can see where a rubber grip on a pocket gun would get hung up easily.
 

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Welcome from Oklahoma. Congratulations on your new firearm.
 

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To improve accuracy with the trigger, I take up the slack, refine my aim, then fire. There is a place where the trigger pauses near the end of the stroke. I find that I can hold it there without having an AD, although I only do that when I am pointing at a target and intend to fire.

A good grip, firm wrist and arm are essential to avoid limp wristing it and having misfeeds. The recoil is very snappy. I put a strip of hockey tape on the back of the grip to tame the cheese grater.

The most dependably feeding SD round in my TCP is Hornady Critical Defense, so it is my carry ammo. The conical shape of the bullets really helps prevent misfeeds where the tip of the bullet stops against the almost vertical feed ramp, which happens with me sometimes using FMJ target ammo.
 

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Welcome from little ole New Hampshire & Congrats on your latest addition !
 

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The hesitation before firing on the trigger pull is more a remembered point than a felt point on mine. A little more polishing and some lube will make any grittiness or hesitation completely disappear.
From a practical standpoint, I will probably end up practicing by pulling all the way through the trigger pull anyway because that is how these little guns would be used in a "situation". Less friction would be less deviation in the point of aim.

On a related note: I have been amazed at the waiting times that people are saying they had to get their guns. My wait was the 5 minutes it took for them to call in the background check. The paperwork took longer than the wait.
 

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Before buying in bulk I would try a few different brands, every once in a while someone will get a picky TCP. Mine was a little picky at first, after a couple hundred rounds it ate everything just fine. Seems to me most people had no problems with PMC for range practice. Same goes with the SD rounds, some can be picky with certain bullet profiles.
 

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Congrats on your 738!

Search through the 700 threads and you will find a lot of good info on small autos. Be sure and read through eGumpher's 738 reliability stickie over in the smithing forums.

Good info on holsters in the Concealed Carry forums. I would suggest a good pocket holster and a good CrossBreed MiniTuck or one of its many clones to handle all your CC needs. The IWB MiniTuck will allow you to CC in a suit and even pull your jacket off without anyone being the wiser about our CCW. In a pocket holster, I look for one that the holster comes off as you draw and if it doesn't you can still fire at least once with the holster still in place, if need be. I like the hook kind that catch the edge of our pocket as you draw.

Use those snap caps and dry fire about a thousand, or more, times. This will allow you to learn control of that trigger (find out where the notch in the pull is) as well as smooth out the trigger itself. Forget about double taps, ain't gonna happen with a DAO.
 

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I will head over to the smithing forums to check out the recommendations. I don't want to go too far before establishing a baseline but it will be a good "to do" list for later.
I have been looking at the mini tuck holsters and I would love to have one, but I have a hard time justifying $50-$100 for a holster for something that slips into your pocket. I keep looking at one of the supertucks for my CZ75, but I just can't justify carrying that big heavy gun if I have the TCP.
The sub-$20 Desantis Nemesis was about my price point and my intended mode of carrying it. I will definitely keep my eye out for a deal if it comes up on the mini-tuck.

Hopefully I will get lucky on my sweep of big box and LGS and find a few boxes of ammo for my first range time. I keep wanting to jump right in and buy in bulk, but holding off to see if it is picky probably makes sense.

As for pictures, it pretty much looks the same as all the rest of the TCPs right out of the box. It is the all-black version with one magazine. Hopefully they will come out with the factory 8rd magazine before long so that I can get that one as a second, but I may end up getting another 6rd in the meantime.
 

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My wife and I have a CPL. She wanted a smaller pistol to carry so we went shopping. Looking at several .380's, she chose the PT 738 stainless version because she said it fit her hand best and liked the looks :). Comparing it to the LCP personally I liked the trigger better on the 738. This is our first Taurus.

I'm not familiar with pocket carries as having a Glock 17 & 26 etc. but it seemed to be a decent pistol and the price was right so we bought it. Her 738 so far has go through over 200 rds with no issues using various ammo, but I first cleaned, oiled then ran the slide a few hundred times before shooting out of the box. I do that with most new pistols out of habit I guess. She cleans it after each session as it does get dirty.

Now I'm looking at getting a pocket pistol for myself. Preferring 9mm there are however no options for one that small, so it will be .380. I spent the last 2 weeks handling several .380's: Bodyguard, P380, LCP, DB8, P238.
These are only my opinions, others may differ:

Bodyguard 380:
Pros- nice feel and fit, just an overall nice looking gun.
Cons- laser is not important to me. I also don't care for a safety, but because of the long trigger really isn't needed. It could be considered an extra safety feature. The sight was too high profile for my liking possibly causing snagging.

Kahr P380:
Pros- I really like this gun, have shot it and know a few that own one. High quality, shoots well.
Cons- Price too high for my taste and purpose (pocket carry & backup). I have also heard there are some rounds that don't feed well on this gun but can't swear to it. If someone could verify this please post.
It should be noted Kahr has announced the CW380, an econo-version of the P380, priced right. Unfortunately it won't be available for another 3+ months.

Ruger LCP:
See above; and have heard of issues with this model, but could be isolated cases. I like the 738 better, one reason is slide open after last shot.

Diamondback DB8:
Pros- cost, nice grip for larger hands. Seems to be a Glock micro copycat in some respects. I seriously considered this gun.
Con- parts availability and not much history behind them. Also, on their website it states using +P and +P+ ammo voids the warranty. That right there turned me off.

Sig P238:
Pros- Just an awesome, reliable solid gun, have shot it several times.
Cons- Heavy (compared to others), basically a baby 1911, single action w/safety; not my choice for pocket carry. Cost is up there too.

I must say after looking at several other pocket carry pistols, and having carried my wife's Taurus 738, I keep going back to it as my preferred choice, but would add a grip extension. It just seems to be the best bang for the buck. If there are other recommendations, please don't hesitate.
 
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