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New M44C Tracker

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#1 ·
In some past posts, there has been discussion about the M44C 2" Tracker, 5-shot. (It's not listed on the Taurus web site.)
I have a new one in stainless steel. Just thought I'd post my experience with it. And nope, unable to post pics.

I shot it for the first time yesterday. What a hoot! I love the little gun. In my opinion, the recoil with 180 grain bullets was very minimal. However, with the 240 grain versions, there was a noticeable difference and a firm grip was required.

Sadly enough, all the excitement was dampened a bit by a less than perfect functioning of the gun. I only put 15 rounds through it. The first ten were fired double action. Twice the gun did not fire when I pulled the trigger, once during each 5 shot load. I thought I had miscounted the rounds due the amount of fun I was having (this being my first .44Mag revolver). During one load of single action firing, I discovered the problem: at one point during the cylinder rotation, with the hammer cocked/locked back, the cylinder would not lock up. I was able to manually turn the cylinder through several chambers until it would lock up with the hammer locked back. I specifically function checked this before ever firing the gun. Maybe some of that recoil from the first blasts affected some internal works. In any event, all I did was clean the gun and the problem still persists. So, it's already been shipped back to Taurus for repair.

I sure hope this one comes back in 100% working order. Except for the malfunction, I really like this little cannon.
 
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:mad: Sorry to hear about yours,mine went back today....Its a 44C also,,,,,had about 8 things that went work with it,,,,only had 25 rounds down the tube.im very teed off about it,,,,,,

1) Front site,red insert came off,,,,Not a Biggie,i could fix that
2) Forcing cone is cut offset,,,large Gap on left side....flame out that side,pulled gun right hard when shooting.....right side looks normal, as far as the Gap on forcing cone goes
3) when shooting,blast comes from rear of cylinder and hit me in face :mad: really bad....felt heat and was hit with debris....after shooting,i noticed powder from rear of cylinder goin up to rear sight,this is what i felt....was on left side of pistol......left side of sight is now bare metal...from heat blast taking color off it
4) after 3 rounds,trigger locks up bad,,,had to open cylinder spin,than seemed to free up for 2 more rounds,,,,and yes i did strip it and clean before i shot it,side plate was off.....lots of junk came out when cleaning...looked like media blast agent,,was everywhere :mad:
5) when pulling hammer back(single action) cylinder over rotates,,missing 2 jugs...lands on fired shell

6) Cylinder does like yours,doesnt lock up sometimes,spins free

7) trigger pull is really bad,I know most of you,have had the same problum,,and use wolf springs to lighten up the pull,but this is really bad.....just stock

8)after shooting,when i cleaned it i noticed that some brass from fired rounds had hit the tip of barrell,,,,nicked it when leaving Compensator ,allmost like bullit came out of barrell off center,,,maybe from forcing cone gap??? causing round to spin uneven

I used 2 types of ammo,,,too see if it was ammo causing the issues,it was not.....

So off to the mothership it went........ive never had this much stuff go wrong with a gun before,,,,,,,ive lost the safe feeling of carrying this,or even shooting it,,,,,i got it for the price,and wanted a gun to take in woods.lots of bear in my back woods.....wanted a cheap gun that i could not have to worry about messing up.....lots of brush and rocks,,,,if ya know what i mean.......Guess ill have to take the Smith 629 out with me,,shes never let me down!!! anyway sorry for the rant,but i feel better now....

Now the waiting game,and even when i get it back,,,i doubt id use it,,,most likey go up for sale
have to wait and see,,,sorry to be a downer,but im so pissed right now........Blue
 
#3 ·
My 44 Tracker went back to them on Saturday. I hope nothing else was wrong with it. I wasn't about to shoot it cause there was a chip in the barrel. I am starting to get warry with everything I am reading and when it comes back I might end up selling it.
 
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Hey sorry for you too :mad:...they just got mine today,,,,years ago they did make good stuff,ive never owned anything,but my friends have had some 1980s 1911s and 357s from taurus,,,,now even my gunsmith asked my why i would buy one?????I asked him if he could take a look at mine,,he laughed and said sorry,,,,,No Way ,,, but yes i think they need to step back and hope that nobody gets hurt......Mine blew back into my face,,,never had that happen,was scary....glad i wear protection....they need to star checking these guns out,,before sending then on there way,,,i was wishing it was just my gun,,,but seems they all have the same problums goin on...dont think id ever spend money on one again.....keep to my smiths and Rugers,,,sad that a brand new pistol,,is spending most of its life at the mothership
 
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years ago they did make good stuff,ive never owned anything,but my friends have had some 1980s 1911s and 357s from taurus,
Your friends have some 1980's Taurus 1911s?

I am hoping the chipped barrel is all that was wrong with it. I hadn't shot it yet.
Didn't see that when you checked it PRIOR to buying?

after shooting,when i cleaned it i noticed that some brass from fired rounds had hit the tip of barrell,,,,nicked it when leaving Compensator ,allmost like bullit came out of barrell off center,,,maybe from forcing cone gap??? causing round to spin uneven
The forcing cone is designed to ease the entry into the barrel from the cylinder. The actual barrel is what would stabilize the bullet. Your compensator will show copper residue because, for one thing, the heat of combustion on the bullet base frees small amounts of jacket material, and the compensator, being the first place that such debris can go, will accumulate it at the 90 degree turn the gas takes.

Complaints 5 and 6 are caused by the same problem in the lock-work.

The gun is faulty, no doubt. It should be replaced. FYI, .44 Magnum double-action revolvers all seem to have some problems. The Ruger Redhawk and Super Redhawks had problems with barrels cracking off. I have a S&W Model 29 that shot itself loose in 300 rounds of Federal 240 gr. JHP. S&W fixed it, and told me, in writing, that the Model 29 wasn't meant for a steady diet of .44 Magnum rounds. :eek: Of course, neither was the Model 19 designed for a steady diet of .357 Magnum rounds, either. Silly us, using the caliber stamped on the barrel. :D

Colt .44 Magnum revolvers were also famous for lock-up issues.
 
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Hey JR thanx for the heads up...and yes i do know what the forcing cone is supposed to do...Mine doesnt do anything good :D :D and the chip barrell,,isnt mine,,was other guy,,,,and yes i did check it out at the shop..all this has happened after firing it,,and Bullet hit the Comp...and put a nice ding in it...allmost like it was off...i think gases from leak in forcing cone blew out the side ,and made bullet come out wobbling,,,,if Cone has too much a gap,,,you lose alot of energy on one side,,,,,,causing bullet to become unstable,,,,and loses energy.......cant test drive guns where im at,,if ya do,,its there loaners...when new guns are fired,,,kind of hard to sell...and yes my buddies did have some 80s Taurus,,,,ive been shooting guns since about 1976,,,and these guns they had where of that 80s period,,,,doubt the have them now......just wanted a cheap hiking dirt gun,,well guess i got it....would never buy any thing from taurus again,,,was my bad i knew better,and went with the cheap way out...gun has since been replaced,with a ruger Alaskan in 454......goin to sell what ever they send back,,,if they ever do.......

if your gun is out to taurus,and ya feel bad,,,do what i did,get something else...something other than there stuff....makes ya feel better...sorry for the ranting....but im still pissed off...and mostly at me for trying there stuff,,,wont be a next time,,,at least with taurus,,,that was like throwing 500 bucks in the wind.......not a great feeling,,,or peace of mind,,,,,dont think id ever trust my life with it ever,,,,,,,Just my little learning lesson for the new year .....thanx again for all the replys,,,you guys seem like a great bunch of folks,,,,just wish i could be a taurus fan.......Blue
 
#10 ·
well i heard from The CS depot.....3 more weeks.....I did fire the alaskan this weekend...what a rush....well be carrying this one for sure in the woods,,,,this badboy will knock down godzilla..anywho,,when gun comes back shes goin up for sale......and ill be gone from this site,,,,just wanted to keep yall informed as how i make out,and for the newbies,,thinking of buying one of these :mad:.....but any offers for the 44 tracker??? :)
 
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I know this may seem a dumb question... but here goes.. were these guns cleaned before their first trip to the range.. and by that I mean every nook and cranny?
 
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Now if you could just learn proper punctuation usage instead of just filling all the empty spaces with endless commas ... :)
 
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kehelo - It looks like your original post here got hijacked. I was just wondering if you've heard from Taurus or if you've gotten your gun back? How about an update?
 
#15 ·
It is good to hear about these issues. I'm being more responsible with maintenance and looking at my guns pre & post use. I'm happy to report no problems so far. This one has had a few hundred rounds through her with no problems (knock on wood). ;D
 

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Again, the barrel stabilizes the bullet, not gas loss at the cylinder gap.

Yes,,,,,,,,,, i allways do a complete tear down,,,and clean,,,,before shooting...and that wouldnt have mattered in this case..
Sir, if that's true, why didn't you notice the forcing cone issue, or the trigger? Then again, you didn't have to shoot it to tell about the trigger, or the forcing cone, prior to purchase.

and Bullet hit the Comp...and put a nice ding in it...allmost like it was off..
The "Comp" in this model, unlike S&W, isn't a separate component, they are EDM milled in the barrel, so misalignment is virtually impossible.

I'm glad that the Ruger Alaskan, with it's 2 1/2" barrel, and no compensator, works for you. Seems an odd choice to replace a revolver with a 4" barrel, and porting. At 150% of the MSRP.

A true "complete tear-down, clean, and lube" would include pulling the side plate. If the gun were stripped of preservative, then improperly lubricated, a poor trigger would be one result. Improper reassembly of the cylinder stop plunger and spring, or the locking bolt plunger and spring, could cause the misfiring, and free spinning cylinder that you mention. Not accusing you of this, but it is something often overlooked, especially the cylinder stop spring.
 
#18 ·
Hi Jr,thanx for the reply,yes gun was taken all the way apart,sideplate,all blown out,lubed,checked,and yes forcing cone when i looked at gun at dealer.didnt seem too bad.maybe i should have looked at it better,but this gun should have worked out of the box.dont you agree?? and im sorry but i dissagree with what your saying about forcing cone, ;)ive seen this happen before,when too much gas is comming from one side only.

and yes barrell should have made round more stable,but didnt.as for the alaskan,i had one on layaway anyway.I allways wanted one.

and after i picked it up.i knew it was goin to be carried when im out in my woods,which is full of black bears.i am sorry that my gun was not perfect when i bought it.

im glad that most folks have no issues,and if mine had just one thing wrong i wouldnt have had such a bad taste for it.but with all that was wrong,and after my smith had seen it.

it needed to go back.this was my first and only taurus.i wont be keeping it,and wont be looking for any other taurus guns to buy.im not mad anymore,just learned a sad lesson.

Im 47 years old,and have been shooting since i was 10,grew up around guns and hunting down in texas,and i own to many to count.this was a first for this many things out of the box wrong.had issues with others,but nothing this bad.

thanx again for your input.this is a great site with a great bunch of guys,i just wanted to let ya know a little about me,and im no rookie shooter :D
 
#19 ·
A forcing cone that is faulty will cause spitting or shaving of lead or jacket. If it extends out far enough to open the cylinder gap, it will also reduce velocity. However, as most manufacturers allow for up to .010" in gap, velocity reductions are already inherent in revolvers.

If the forcing cone were far enough off-set, and not "just a little", it could result in a damaged bullet nose, which COULD result in poor accuracy beyond 15-20 yards. However, that's really rare, and is easily seen in an inspection. I routinely carry a feeler gauge with me when looking at pistols. Anything over .007" I pass on. This has caused me to have a hard time with S&W, especially new construction pieces.

Whether a new gun is supposed to be perfect isn't the question. Like a new anything produced using mass production techniques, it simply makes common sense to check it yourself, PRIOR to buying it. Would you buy a new car off the lot that had a cracked grill, or a transmission that leaked oil, or a tire that had obvious damage on it? I wouldn't, nor should you buy a gun without a similar check.

Good luck with your new Ruger, sir. I have both a Super Blackhawk, and a Redhawk, both in .44 Magnum. They are great guns.
 
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BigSkiff said:
kehelo - It looks like your original post here got hijacked. I was just wondering if you've heard from Taurus or if you've gotten your gun back? How about an update?
Yes, sir,
I just got my little hand cannon back from the service folks yesterday, 8/11, by FedEx. (I just re-visited this Complaints section today for the first time since shortly after sending the gun back to Taurus on 6/23.)
Upon inspection of the revolver, to include some dry firing, it seems to be in proper working order. I'll know better when I have the chance to fire some rounds, hopefully soon.
The letter from the service department stated "Problem found: Trigger. Resolution: adjusted." I'd personally like a bit more in the way of explanation, but I'll be perfectly happy as long as the gun works properly.
As for the questions in other posts about the gun being thoroughly cleaned before firing, yep it was.
Anyway, that's the update for now, until I get the opportunity to shoot it.
 
#22 ·
Today, I was able to fire 50 rounds out of my 2" snubbie hand cannon, M44C revolver. I just recently got it back from Taurus repair. (ref. the above posts.)

I split the loads evenly between Blazer 240 gr. JHP and Remington UMC 180 gr. JSP, in both DA and SA mode. (The light grain Remington definitely produced the most noise, fire flash, and recoil force.) The gun worked perfectly to my satisfaction. The Taurus repair folks apparently made it right, so I'm happy with it. Many more rounds through it will confirm reliability and confidence, but time did not permit more than this today. I'm very optimistic about this purchase working out well.